The Ring of Power

From “dragon’s”— “The Causes of Evil”.


"In the film, The Lord of the Rings, (and I suspect in the book as well, but it is so long ago that I read it that I cannot remember.) Frodo, a ‘hobbit’, and one of the ‘heroes’ of the story, takes pity on the creature Gollum, who is evil, one is lead to suppose, beyond redemption.

Gollum was once a creature not unlike the hobbits, but he came into possession of the One Ring, the Ring of Power, and it corrupted him till there was nothing of good left in him, there was nothing at all left in him but hatred and malice.

Frodo and Sam, his friend/servant, get lost trying to find their way to Mordor. Frodo has possession of the One Ring, and he is taking it to Mordor so that it can be destroyed. The pair are attacked by Gollum who wants the Ring for himself, but Frodo and Sam overcome him and take him prisoner.

This is where it gets interesting, for Frodo and Sam exhibit entirely different attitudes towards Gollum, and it is the effect this has on Gollum and his responses that are interesting.

Sam treats Gollum with distrust and derision. He watches him, suspecting treachery at every moment, and reading malicious intentions into his every act. He calls him ‘Stinker’, and expresses disgust at his eating habits etc. stc.

Frodo on the other hand, preferring to believe that Gollum is not beyond redemption, and recognising that he has suffered takes pity on him and is more sympathetic. He treats Gollum with respect, and remembering that he had once been a better creature called Smeagol, calls him by that name. He also gives Gollum his trust, and gets him to guide himself and Sam to Mordor.

Under Sam’s influence Gollum remains as treacherous and malicious as ever, but in response to Frodo he begins a process of transformation. Gollum enjoys the consideration, trust and respect he gets from Frodo, and in return he develops a sort of respect, trust and even attachment to him. Under Frodo’s influence Gollum begins to become detached from his evil side, to see it as not really him, and tries get free of it. He tries to become the creature Frodo treats him as, tries to become Smeagol.

If one is to abstract a principle, or moral, from the above story, it would be this:

People behave as they are treated."


Another one from the magical, topsy-turvy land of Britiannia, home of hobbits, elves, dwarves, kings and queens.

First off, lord of the rings is a fairy tale.

From my experience, it can go either way, people can reward, or take advantage of kindness, it depends on the person, and the person depends on the genes and memes it inherited from its ancestors, and the knowledge it acquires later on from experiencing and interpreting the world.

“Evil” is this —

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZRw0IYdf3g[/youtube]

A lion kills and eats his “step-cubs”, if you will.

He does this to ensure his own unborn offspring will be looked after exclusively by his new bride.

Thus, evil is rooted in the will to live, preserving and propagating the self, especially at the expense of another.

“Good” is this —

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49J6eh7kJMA[/youtube]

If Evil is rooted in the will to live, than naturally good, its symantec opposite, is rooted in the denial of the will to live, especially for the sake of another.

What’s interesting though, is good is ultimately rooted in evil, the denial of the will to live in the will to live.

Let’s introduce another concept, expediency, expediency is this —

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLa363Yf5Ew[/youtube]

Simple organism like flies take the path of least resistence, eating whatever shit comes their way.

Complex organisms like man, or so I am told, are more discriminating, and may hold out for better shit further down the line, real or imagined.

Sometimes, depending on the hindsight/insight/foresight and dicipline of the individual, man is able to save, store, or devout a surplus of his energies to commerce and industry, in the hopes of acquiring a greater return (profit), increasing his overall energies, minerals and vitamins. When these behaviors happen instinctively, naturally, we call them play and love, when they happen intellectually and artificially, we call them work and our public facade.

That’s why higher animals such as cats and dogs, are so active, where as lower animals, such as snakes and scorpians, are so inactive —

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFV3TosSE0s[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jx6W8zEwYSQ[/youtube]

Now some very “evil” and insightful men came along and devised a strategy, they said to themselves, look at all this surplus food and wine, gold and silver, we’d sure like to get our hands on all that.
One said, we could take it by force!
Another said no, there’s too many of them, and too few of us.
Two said, we could take it by stealth.
Another said no, eventually we’ll be caught.
Three said, we could convince them it’s always better to give than to receive?
The others laughed… and laguhed, and laughed, and laughed.
Three said, but what’s the worst that could happen, if we fail, at least we get to keep our heads.
The others thought about it for a moment, and then they agreed, and so the first political and religious institutions were born, and with their taxes, prisons, fairy tales and magick potions, Gods and monsters, heavens and hells, they’ve been duping the simpler men among them ever since.

Such is the origin of absolute good and absolute evil, and evil (life, order) rooted in good (death, chaos) metaphysics.

Without evil, not the world itself, nor the plants, animals and men in it, be at all possible.

And they’ve been laughing ever since —

Enjoyed this post, although I think that dismissing the Lord of the Rings as a faery tale is to fail to appreciate that there are greater depths to the things people create. A faery tale is a myth, which is a dream, which can be interpreted to reveal all sorts of interesting things about people.

The origins of the LOTR lies in primarily Wagner’s Ring of the Nibelung, which in turn is an altered re-telling of the myths of the norse gods. Also, Tolkein was steeped in Old English and the related mythology. So, one could say that the LOTR is a kind of descendant and therefore is related to all that old mythology. To dismiss LORD as merely a faery tale is to dismiss its ancestors.

I didn’t see the association to “The Ring of Power”, but…

“Destroy all that is not Me!” - Selfish
“Give all of me away.” - Selfless
or
“Strategic Momentum toward Inclusive Self-Harmony” - Anentropia.

The actual good is merely too difficult for the mind of homosapian to easily identify.

The Ring of Power refers to conspirators (the ring) staying “invisible” while controlling the other conspirators (the other 9 rings).
Two of the twelve tribes of the Israelites were lost.

Thank you for this feast of information, Eyes, you feed my brain with new interpretations and insights.

You’re very welcome friend, feel free to comment/critique anything and everything.

Here is The Ring of Power —

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p2BjhSEnNI[/youtube]

Here is The Eye of Mordor —

Yes, and it goes deeper, the evil is something and nothing, where as there’s nothing you can say about the good, not even that it is or is not (patternlessness). The good is like a computer virus, it’s baffling, it counfounds us, it shakes us to our very core. It’s ambiguous, complex, beyond our understanding. Ultimately it’s just a concept (perhaps innate?) we can, or can’t think about theoretically, or practically use to indicate things in the world, such as —

Anentropia or not entropy is selfishness.

“Inclusive Self-Harmony” sounds like some sort of synthesis.

The only thing you can say about good (metaphysical altruism) is that it can’t be identified (it goes by many nebulous words and terms — God, the One, etc), only evil (metaphysical egoism) can be identified. Whatever is not ultimately of evil, or relatively close to it, must perish. Evil is the rebellion of man against God (I say rebellion for good is dominant… or, are good and evil epistemologically and necessarily evenly distributed, as tall and short? ?), as man has attained a greater degree of self-hood than man, through his reason and voracious appetites, he turns more and more of nature into artifice, more and more otherness into otherlessness, and that which is a suitable dwelling for otherlessness. However, evil must be softened with a bit of good, otherwise, it could consume us all, consequently man is the most capable of being evil and good. The elites are keeping true epistemology/metaphysics from man, because they have attained a greater degree of selfhood, they keep men in the darkness of otherhood by giving him a false sense of self, via religious and political institutions, only true philosophy and science can set man free. Thus a fork has been placed before me, what to do with the knowledge?

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Religions have tricked us into believing evil is good and good is higher form of evil (life and order are death and chaos and death and chaos are immortality), which is nothing but a recipe for memetic domestication —

“For whoever wants to save his life will lose it, but whoever loses his life for me will find it.”

I’m not saying there’s no truth to this, but when taken literally…

It’s true, Lord of the Rings is an interesting tale, and every good myth contains germs of truth.

How do you figure?
IMH/SO, Selfishness requires the lack of concern for others. Anentropia requires the attention to others such that they “are happy without the need to offend you”.

It means to maintain ones own harmony by maintaining the harmony of those around him as well, “inclusive”.

James, what does IMH/SO mean and what do you mean by ‘anentropy.’ You coined the word, didn’t you, so you must have some logical meaning for it. Can you explain it, please? Thanks. :slight_smile:

I got warned for appearing too confident, it scares the meek and emotionally insecure. So now I make sure to include, “In My Humble/Slave Opinion” before everything… for those who need such reassurance (the other slaves who feel uncomfortable with their assigned station in life). Smiley faces have lost a lot of their effectiveness.

And yes, I coined “anentropy”, merely as a short for “anti-entropy”… which is not exactly the same as non-entropy.

IMH/SO, Anentropy activity counters entropy (by definition) and is the cause of subatomic particles forming from the surrounding chaos of EM/mass waves. Anything that is growing is at least partly anentropic, but in order to be fully anentropic, it must inherently know when to stop growing and merely maintain itself as well as have the facilities to accomplish that maintenance. The human body comes close, but doesn’t have the ability to discern and filter many corruptive elements. Small mechanisms using anentropic principles can be made to supply endless energy merely by ordering the chaos of atomic motion in gases, turning thermal energy into usable pressure (“Maxwell’s Demon”). The principle being applied on the variety of levels of the universe is what causes the universe to be what it is and energy to be conserved. Anentropy creates the entropy on the next higher levels of formation. There is no entropy on the fundamental level of existence. Anentropy is the “God Principle”. There are far more details, but…