The social ladder

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After living in that shi*ty boarding house of mine, from which I will move out as of end of this week. I have gained a new perspective on the social ladder.

We all start off our life equally, educationally speaking. We all have chance to go to the same school. So what makes a person successful or unsuccessful at school applies in life as well.

At school, I am successful because I am intelligent and I work hard. A person does not well may work harder than me, but he is not so intelligent, so while I get over 95 in all my exams, he manages to score in the 80s.

Now, in life, a lazy loser does no work. so he is poor. but unlike others, he makes no attempt at saving his megre income. so he takes on drugs like pot, which disasterous effect can be seen with a 23 yr old man with the IQ of a 14 yr old. This I have witnessed myself.

so he is lazy. means he does not have a stable job, no stable income. so he is poor.

[size=150]A PERSON IS FIRST OF ALL LAZY, THEN HE BECOMES POOR.[/size]

Now, the poor loser drinks and smokes like his life is dependant on it. so he has even less cash. At this stage, he becomes angry and bitter and resent the world, so he becomes a determinist and blame it all on ‘bloody society’ without ever taking a good look at himself.

so naturally, if he is married, his wife would leave him. In the cases I witnessed, the wife took the kids from the loser and changed the kids’ last names so as to sever all connection to the loser, which is understandable. Then the loser becomes more bitter and resentful. He becomes repressed and violent. He becomes cruel because no one loves him, not that he is loveable.

At this point, nothing can be done for the loser. The final battle in which he has to lose is the battle of life and death. so if he is courageous enough he would committe suicide.

The winner is like this, even though a winner might face the same challanges, a winner when fallen down would get up and push forward, forever reaching upwards, towards greater, more dizzying heights. He works hard and is persistent. He is determined and loves responsibility. He is strong and kind and understanding. So he marries to a good wife, have kind children, he honors his parents and so he moves upwards.

The worst thing one can do is to be jealous and does nothing to improve oneself.

Jealousy ought to be a motivator for improvement and not to induce set back. All set backs MUST be conquered.

So a person on the road to being a loser can be helped in 20s or 30s, but if he is in his 40s, he has crystalised and nothing can be done. He becomes a burden to society, he is filled with self-hate, and arrogance, he despises himself and others. He becomes a hateful, arrogant, cruel, insolent, violent fu*ker. the only place he belongs to is prison.

Now, if not by the free will of the loser, why is he at the bottom of the ladder if not by his sheer laziness? a Winner must work hard in all aspects of life, embrace life and not hate it. This is the truth.

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You sound lonely.

All of the guys that I have ever known that got into Hitler were smart lonely and disrespected people that should have been able to get a girlfriend, but couldn’t.

Things will get better.

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Hitler was, despite being comically short and pig ugly, quite the ladies man…

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Hitler had it made!

No, I’m talking about people that I’ve known in my life. I have never known anyone that was living it up and seriously reading Hitler.

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You post, Pinnacle, seems to be a carbon copy of something that Nietzsche would say. That aside, I am not sure as to if your post was just a rant or if it is an opening for a debate of some description?

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POR,

The shitty boarding house, again??!

Okay.

Move to a better place. Seek the people who look, act, think, talk like you.

But, I think you want to be with people who you think are exact opposite of you, BUT REALLY NOT. See. You are describing yourself, POR, and you don’t know it. It’s you that you hate. There is no Other People. It’s you and only you. You are looking in the mirror, and you don’t like what you see.

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One more thing. Remember that “hell is other people” bit?

Okay. OP (other people) works in mysterious ways. We are sometimes duped into believing there is OP. Why sometimes? Because it’s a defense mechanism. See. You think you see people walking around like regular people.

But really, Other People is just a manifestation of yourself, hence a manifestation of Hell, hence a defense mechanism to allow you to survive your own sanity.

The deep connection between OP and Hell is rooted in the WTS (will to survive). What we would do…do for survival…is a dark, dark, stomach-wrenching reality. YOu think you don’t eat Other People? Wait until you are stranded in the appalachian mountains in the winter time with no telephone connection to the rest of the world, no shot of vicodin to your veins, and you will start thinking of eating Other People.

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TheAdlerian

A brilliant psycho analysis!

arendt

why don’t you stop posting and come and live at my previous boarding house.

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 Yes, PoR, because your origional post was anything but vaguely described, unscientifically observed, unappropriately applied generalizations.

 We've all seen people be careless and irresponsible and flush their own lives down the toilet.  I work with a 60 year old crack addict who hates his life.  Why don't you quit assuming that you have an exceptionally valuable or unique life experience?

 Because an underfunded inner city school realistically provides the exact same education as a well-funded well-staffed state of the art suburban school, right?

 Once again, an informed and coherent determinist is very unlikely to apply the philosophy to his everyday life in the pessimistic, bitter way that you describe as inevitable.

 Forget inalienable human rights and all that rubbish.

 Thanks for being humble.

 Yes, I realize that my sarcasm is in direct opposition to the idea of clarity of speech that I so often champion, but I don't think the response I get from you will be much different.
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True. The sociopath is a quite interesting charismatic character. The Psychopathic God, and Inside the Third Reich provide interesting insight regarding him and his thugs. A monorchid, tea tottler, who incessently washed his hands, passed laws regarding how to cook lobsters without causing them too much pain.

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Emorgasm

have you ever heard of a public library? oh and what about the internet? stop blaming losers on small discrepancies in the school system. I came from a public school, but I worked hard and got better marks. I mean some snobby idiot who goes to a wealthy private school might do worse than me for everything goes well for him so he does not try hard. ought be blame his misfortune later in life on the fact that he was rich young?

then he is a hypocrite.

The only right is the right we fight for. There is not such thing as human right, also, the inalienable human rights only apply to Americans, why we less human Australians die for the US in Iraq. Human rights. oh what rubbish, who gave you that right? your mother? grow up and fight. The only right you will ever get is by struggling!

I am indeed!

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The POR character:

This character is a great comment on climbing the social ladder myself!

Any thoughts about what I mean?

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Umm I’m not exactly sure, Adl… Are you saying he’s your character?

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YES! You’re calling him the “Por Character”, too! :laughing: I’m so proud! =D>

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No guys, I might make an absurd character but not one like POR.

Anyway, what does the “Nazi” and the “christian” say about the social ladder?

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 And of course it's wrong not to apply a logically rigorous philosophy to every single action in one's life?  Hypocrasy is inevitable and necessary.