how does the stoic theories of nature and logic influence their eithics
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well of course the Stoics were the ancient greek boat loaders and their most important job was to load the grecian urn on board the boat of Ulysses (whose son Telemachus was the first annoying phone salesman). and of course the Stoic theory of nature was that it was natural to be stored on a boat. and Stoic logic worked pretty much the same way.
MP: We are Stoics
mP: It is natural to be stored on a boat
C : It is good to be stored on a boat so naturally we will store it
as you can see from the simple Stoic ontology and first argument of Stoic principles, that it is good to be stored on a boat by a Stoic. so the Stoics roamed Greece storing things on boats for everyone and they argued ferociously with people who didn’t want their stuff stored. This of course led to the first major conflict with Troy. The Stoics helped win the Trojan war by inventing a storage device for the army (yes, the infamous Trojan horse was invented by Stoics.) for years the Stoics happily went all over Greece storing things on boats until one day the boats were all filled to capacity. no matter how hard they tried, the Stoics could store no more on boats and this destroyed the underlying premise of their entire philosophy. Of course, if the Stoics were smarter they would have made bigger boats. Ship Stowing Stoics Shoving Stuff in Storage.
-Imp
LMMFAO,
Nice use of alliteration in your summary closing sentence Imp.
LMMFAO.
Not sure the allegory is entirely, historically correct, but still, well done.
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On what Mas said to Imp I say Ditto =D>
So that’s where that The Ulysses Grant boat reference comes from. And, of course, you forgot to mention that with the invention of the infamous Trojan Horse, came the infamous Trojan Horse Condom (as you can see, I am not yet over that).
Yes, sandy. The purpose of the Trojan Horse Condom was, of course, to prevent greek seamen from spilling out all over Helen.
LMMFAO.
Philosophically, historically, literarily … well done.
Best one yet.
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=D> Perhaps the most brilliant explanation of the stoics
I have ever seen.
Maybe you can explain descartes while you are at it.
Kropotkin
Mast - I was undoubtedly inspired by the subject matter.
Tks.
faust,
Was this around the same time Achillies suffered a money shot incident he could never live down? Something about Seamen shoting all over his heel? Apparently, Helen couldn’t keep her mouth shut. The history is a little fuzzy on this.
Echo,
I can’t argue with Imp’s interpretation here, but the boat loading was an after effect (a psychological after effect if you will). It all started with buggery.
A great deal of that was going on in Greece and the Stoics were a prime target. They just didn’t know how to say no. The phrase ‘No means No’ came way later -I believe around the time Helen founded the first feminist movement. Everywhere they went phrases like ‘bottoms up’, or ‘bend over because ready or not here it comes’ became common parlance to the Stoic’s ears–it just wasn’t natural. To make things worse, they were asked to smile through this whole ordeal.
If they could just make detached stone cold faces, they figured, no one would approach them. All who came across these sullen faces opted to dub them stoics (hence the name). The buggery continued. The ethical implications were staggering. What to do? what to do?
Alas, a champion came forth; and this champion could say, ‘No’ for his name was ZeNo (he had taken his boat to some of the feminist gatherings conducted by Helen who was coincidentally in Troy setting stuff on fire with her bra).
Anyway, Zeno convinced them to become boat loaders. I believe Imp covers the rest.
Well, sandy, Achilles spent so much time switching between boy’s and girl’s clothing that he was never quite sure what to wear. To make matters worse, he couldn’t wear anything more than a few times before he got tired of it. He gave away all his nice dresses, and even a hardly-used suit of armor. In fact he was constantly switching armor, which tended to make accessorising a rather complicated affair.
One day, while in battle, it struck him that the pumps he was wearing didn’t match his latest outfit. As he stooped to change into some still-sensible but more seasonal sandals, he got the attention of some Trojans who had been away from the womenfolk for a bit too long, and were rather keyed up. Evidently, Achilles had back. Just as he was saying, to nobody in particular, “I wouldn’t be caught dead in those heels”, the blow was struck.
They might have been sailors, yes, (but among them was Paris, of course) for they reportedly said “Heave! (ho) Thar she blows!” just as they harpooned him.
“See Paris and die” never meant more to anyone than it did to Achilles.
You know, echo, if you’re still here, I’m really sorry about this.
Well Echo,
I am not sure if I concur with faust’s sentiments here. Sure, he feels bad doing your homework for you, but if you print this whole thread out and present it to your professor (you might have to work the kinks out), I guarrantee you an A. This is primo stuff Echo. Nothing to be sorry about.
By the way, I like your Blake quote. There is an irony there I can’t put my finger on or care to stoop over and pick up. Let’s just hope you weren’t speaking your mind… that would be embarrassing.
faust,
this, relatively speaking, is an arena you’ve elevated to a sacred sanctum. I almost found myself reaching for a smiley emoticon. Stoic powers had to be mustered (without the psychological implications of course).
sandy - It’s funny you should say that - after reading this last post of yours, I was sorely tempted to write: “LOL”.
But I don’t do that. Ever.
I feel your pain faust, I feel your pain.
By the way, that was not a reference to Achilles in any way.
I just feel like a heel, is all.