The 'Third Stage' of Capitalism.

The three stages of the ‘defenda capitalist’ dialectic of history.

First it was the will of ‘god’ who granted the chosen to rule over and control property and kingdoms and shit.

The age of enlightenment hits, and now it isn’t ‘god’, but nature, evolution, the power of the strong over the weak via Darwin and Co.

Finally that notion is abandoned (it’s aethical, amoral) and the capitalists actually begin believing that it’s neither ‘god’ nor nature, but by rational man’s design (cue all the economists, philosophers and psychologists behind it) and something that produces and provides at least the ‘opportunity’ for individuals to amass personal wealth and property… something they’d not be able to do otherwise (in another system).

So there are the stages, and all three are bullshit.

Avent, N’s critique of socialism and anarchism is entirely too short, dubious and crude to be taken seriously. Great guy tho.

Well, here is where you fuck up, suggesting that one is a “system” just like the other.

As you rather shoddily explained, one sprang up from millennia of evolution, with no one planning it.

Communism is in its essence an idea, a plan. That doesn’t make it not natural. It’s still animals having that idea.

But the markets are not a system or an idea like communism is.

Just try to work the word “marketism” or “businessism.” They are on their face absurd.

They had to invent a word, the cocksuckers.

No, I didn’t mean when he mentioned them directly. Which was mercifully short.

You don’t want to see Babe Ruth washing dishes.

You’re over complicating it. By ‘system’ we mean the way society is structured; its laws, customs, citizen rights, processes of production, distribution and consumption, etc.

And systems of communism on small scales have existed before, just as capitalism at some point was only a brewing idea (in the head of a merchant who was critical of feudalism, for example).

“But the markets are not a system or an idea like communism is.”

… or like capitalism is, either. The market itself is just an exchange of labor and goods/services. It’s the rules regulating those exchanges that constitute the system (along with its processes) and organize how it functions.

Fine, OK, if you want to word it like that,

The rules of one sprang up from thousands of years of evolution, with no one directing it, the rules of the other sprang up in the heads of communists.

Nobody was critical of feudalism, they just sold shit. You misunderstand.

If you find a cave, carved into the wall of a coast out of innumerable waves through innumerable years, and then you say “I’m gonna carve one just like it,” it doesn’t make both caves equivalent.

Well, the funny thing is that you’re right, capitalism is an idea…

In the head of the communist.

It doesn’t even make them both caves.

Yes nature, value increase through spontaneous value exchange.
It all comes down to the dynamics of value, like any kind of physics, nature.
Astrophysics is a bit of a god for you, I can see that, it must remain inscrutable, which is a good boyish sentiment; you did manage to understand some of the mathematical theory I created, so you can in theory fathom some of what I did with astrophysics.

You mean the notion of it as something separate from simple nature.

Not to worry, I dont expect you to understand the distinction. You after all admire writers precisely when you have not read their work, as you intimated to Parodites; similarly you admire Marx precisely because you don’t feel like reading him. Which is what Marx, and Parodites, count on.

Yeah but it’s not something I respect.

A note on the Americas, it is an ominous sign that the whole continent has not a single native language in official use. This speaks to why it can produce music but not philosophy.

Alright Parodites.

It’s actually a fact as you well know, Pedro. All American countries have their colonial language in use. They aren’t nations, but colonies, they have no spiritual autonomy, no roots, thus they have no conception of philosophy.

But they sure can bang the drum.

So why don’t you reply as Parodites and defend the actual points?

And hopefully spare us the gay imagery and ranting and raging?

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It does not get much more orthodox than this.

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lol

“Actual points”?

Yes.

Beyond ‘because magic’ and ‘those drum-banging negroes.’