the third

well we have all heard two beliefs on the universe, 1 having a beginning or 2 being Infinate.
Does anyone believe that thier could be a third or fourth.

yep

There could be a million beliefs, however only one true perpetual Universe. One (Uni-verse) does not have a beginning, because for nothing (does not exist) to become something, that nothing could not have been nothing.

Well an infinite universe has 2 possibilities. Either everything has happened or everything is going to happen…

There’s another way of looking at it, though.

When we think of the universe – by implication of what you’ve said here, when YOU think of the universe – you’re actually thinking only of a snapshot of the universe, its existence in a moment of time which coincides with your own subjective experiential viewpoint. You’re leaving out all the past and future states, and so what you have isn’t One, but only a fraction of one.

Include all of the universe, over all of its time, and the question of beginnings becomes meaningless, because the entity is timeless.

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regards, Absterted87

I’m going to agree with Navigator. The third option is that it is incoherent to suggest either of the first two, since both “beginning” and “infinite”(in this context) are temproal terms (neither of which make sense from a hyper-universal context).
I think it makes more sense to think of time as cyclic (finite and unbounded), because the idea of there being an ‘outside’ of spacetime is incoherent, and a boundary implies something on the other side.