The unholy mutual parasitism of the US government and its people

While the US government becomes larger, more tyrannical, more irrational and insane seemingly by the day the US people go along with it. Why? They might bitch and complain about this or that thing going on, certain abuses of power or problems with what the government is doing. But at the end of the day they support the government and even have come to falsely conflate the government with the nation itself.

I remember hearing on news once how the pledge of allegiance is about being loyal to the government. Wait, what? No, it is about loyalty to the nation. The nation does not equal the government. In fact the very founding documents of the nation clearly state the right of the people to overthrow the government if it is abusing them. Not that NPR or any corporate mainstream ‘news’ would ever mention that, of course. The false conflation of the nation with the government is a huge error seen in fascism, and has now deeply infected the political left and right in America. Therefore you can be sure that fascism, I mean open obvious fascism and not the quiet semi-apologetic fascism that pretends to care about not being fascist, is not far behind in America.

But the critical point here is about how the American people need the American government’s abuses to keep maintaining their own high standard of living. Most Americans have living standards better than most people on the planet. Ironically lots of Americans have shitty lives emotionally, they are on psychotropic meds or use drugs and alcohol to try and manage their negative emotions because high level materialism does not in fact satisfy spiritually or bring real meaning to their lives. And yet they cling to their material standards with all the desperation of someone who works 2 or 3 jobs they hate to maintain the ability to keep their credit card debt-fueled hyper-consumption going.

The evil of the American people is largely an evil of omission. An evil of “when good men do nothing”. Most people are decent and good for the most part, assuming they are not put into extreme situations, but even the average American has accepted the evils of his own government because on some level he realizes this is what keeps his standard of living going. It used to be claimed that the west has stolen its wealth from the rest of the world, and this has become true now. The theft is not always direct, it can be subtle such as how the US creates and exports massive amounts of inflation all over the world. Forcing everyone else to use its increasingly worthless dollars. And all of the wars and military conflicts, color revolutions, weapons and drugs trafficking, outsourcing to child labor factories, all examples of ways the US fucks over people around the planet for its own gain.

The American people know this. We have seen so many examples by now of American imperialism. War and land theft and resource theft and regime overthrow. All to put the people of the non-US world under the thumb of western capitalism, generating profits for their new masters. We all know this happens. Yet most people keep supporting the US government anyway, they use the excuse crafted for them by the system itself: “well the other side is so bad, we must vote for the lesser of two evils!” This is merely the excuse. They may or may not believe it (emotional capture) but the real reason is deeper and more insidious: Americans want their high standard of living in a material way and they know the US government will invade and conquer and steal and kill whoever around the planet it needs to for the capitalist materialist system to keep functioning. This is quite apparent when the US starts a new war and the stock market goes up.

The US people are guilty of the crimes of the US government because they supported it all the way. When the rest of the world is finally in a position to pass judgment upon America for its many crimes the US people will not be able to beg innocence. They have chosen ignorance to maintain an unearned standard of living, one they know deep down is sustained only by constant imperialism, abuse, theft and killing of other people elsewhere in the world. Think of what happened to Germany after WW1 and WW2.

And the parasitism is mutual because the US government also needs the people to maintain its appearance of legitimacy. Not only that but it needs the people to remain sedated in a capitalist narco-haze of materialism, pop culture, media news insanity and psychotropic meds. As long as the people are sedated enough to not rise up or demand anything better of their leaders yet still keep turning out in large enough numbers to vote every 2-4 years then the system perpetuates itself while maintaining the appearance of being legitimate and ‘democratic’.

The US is a parasite on its own population, dumbing it down over time, abusing and socially engineering it more and more, making it more and more sick and confused and poor and lazy and indebted all the time, robbing its people of their rights and freedoms and prosperity all for the sake of maintaining the carefully coordinated level of control needed to keep the system going and appearing legitimate. Meanwhile the US people are parasites upon the US government’s imperialist atrocities and harmful actions around the world because these secure the continued existence of western material-capitalist dominance. Both entities need each other.

And yes I choose the wording in the title deliberately. At this point it is quite clear the US government owns the people. We are not free human beings with rights and autonomy and respect anymore, it is not a government of the people by the people or for the people. Instead it has become a people by, for, and of the government. We are its property. This has been obviously the case with the political left for some time, they openly worship the government (think mandatory experimental mrna jabs) and now Trump has completed the circle by bringing the political right into the same place of accepting their subservient position to the state. Both ‘sides’ worship the government and its unholy power to abuse, steal and kill whatever it wants so long as the people’s comfy bubble of materialism and ignorance is not disturbed.

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What is “the US” if not the people?

I think that you mean the ruling and rich minority who are self-serving and only entertain the electorate to the degree that it validates their mandate.

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I mean the political ruling class on both sides, left and right, as well as those who pull the strings behind them.

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@ProfessorX

You’ll find that the only political dissidents in the United States are the working poor like myself and while we protest the actions of our government we’re powerless to do anything about it because we have no monetary capabilities of challenging the state in any kind of organized effective significant manner.

Outsiders need to understand that the entire culture here is monetary where your entire self worth as an individual and value in society depends entirely on how much money you have in possession. This is the heart of cultural Americanism, money I would argue is our primary national religion. The cultural mental sentiment is that winners don’t complain about anything especially the government, that’s an activity of losers only. The entire culture here is centered around ruthless uneven competition. It is a national cultural wasteland of apathy and nihilism largely.

Most people of all social economic classes are not intellectuals or serious analytical people here at all. If they do think about anything it is only about what the paid political propagandists on radio and television tell them to think about because most of the population is mentally lazy. It is extremely rare to find active thinking intellectuals of any kind inside this nation.

Everything revolves around emotions and vibes in this cultural wasteland, every time I try to talk about serious things like Iran or other various issues I get shutdown by being called cynical, pessimistic, or too negative.

A large segment of the population emotionally and intellectually cannot handle talking about reality in their frail mental ignorance, as a result ignorance is the general rule here concerning the majority of the population.

We use to do things like protest but ever since the first year of Trump’s second term nobody bothers protesting anymore because you just get arrested and thrown into jail. You lose your job and only source of income basically having your entire life ruined overnight. So more and more people don’t dare to step out of line where the few that do rebel do so anonymously on the internet.

Do we have a high standard of living? If you’re bourgeois or superwealthy absolutely, but you’ll find the poverty amongst the poor here comparable with most other nations and where half of our population falls into that category.

Finally, this nation is so religiously zealous in Christianity and for that reason is why nobody is currently protesting in mass against the latest events of Iran.

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As that one very smart guy professor Jiang said, America is addicted to empire. We are addicted to the easy money of empire. Along with empire comes hubris, which he says is a main factor for the huge mistake of attacking Iran.

Check this analysis out when you have an hour to burn listening to a very smart dude explain what is happening now but he predicted it a year ago:

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I pledge Allegiance to the flag of the United States of America,
And to THE REPUBLIC for which it stands, One Nation under God,
Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for All.

My role in the USA is as Philosopher for the Republic by which I was pledged as a child.

I was at the very tail-end of US public schools teaching Civics in Elementary school, do some research:

https://share.google/aimode/ejyY1dmGb034tbsiX

Civics education was not removed through a single official mandate but experienced a significant decline starting in the 1960s, followed by a rapid reduction in elementary schools after the passage of the No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB) in 2001. [1, 2, 3]

Key Historical Decline Periods

Civics education in U.S. public schools has eroded over several decades due to shifting political climates and federal funding priorities.

  • 1960s (Initial Decline): Civic education began to decrease as the subject became increasingly controversial during the Vietnam War and Watergate era. Critics at the time attacked traditional civics as a form of cultural imperialism, leading some school districts to reduce instruction to avoid conflict.
  • 1980s and 1990s: Many traditional “mainstay” courses, including civics, were rolled into broader social studies or disappeared entirely to make room for other electives.
  • 2001–Present (NCLB Era): The passage of the No Child Left Behind Act tied school funding to standardized test scores in math and reading. Because civics was not a tested subject under NCLB, schools shifted instructional time away from it.
    • One study found that between 1993 and 2008, social studies instruction in 3rd through 5th grades dropped by 56 minutes per week.
    • Instructional time for social studies in elementary schools decreased by an average of 32% following NCLB. [1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7]

Contributing Factors to Civics Erosion

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Current Status in Schools

While the subject has declined, it is rarely “removed” entirely. In some states, civic education officially begins as early as kindergarten and is integrated into geography and history. However, rigorous requirements are sparse; only eight states currently have civics requirements for middle-school students, and most high schools offer only a single semester-long course compared to the three courses typically required before the 1960s. [1, 8, 9, 10]

AI can make mistakes, so double-check responses

[1] https://oconnorinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/When-and-Why-Did-America-Stop-Teaching-Civics_.pdf

[2] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HPHvuWFznOc

[3] https://oconnorinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/When-and-Why-Did-America-Stop-Teaching-Civics_.pdf

[4] https://oconnorinstitute.org/wp-content/uploads/When-and-Why-Did-America-Stop-Teaching-Civics_.pdf

[5] https://www.facebook.com/OConnorInstitute/videos/in-the-1960s-american-classrooms-began-incorporating-less-civic-education-whythe/582579884615592/

[6] https://www.quora.com/Why-were-Civics-classes-dropped-from-U-S-high-school-curriculum-in-the-70s-Were-they-a-threat-to-the-politicians

[7] She believed in No Child Left Behind until she saw what it did. Like many others, Diane Ravitch thought the accountability measures in that legislation would improve schools. Instead, it reduced education to test prep and shoved civics, science, art, and recess aside. Worse, it exposed a recurring harsh truth: rich kids score high, poor kids don’t. So, what policies would actually help more kids do better at school? | Kettering Foundation

[8] https://californiahss.org/Civics-ClassroomApproaches.html

[9] https://californiahss.org/Civics-ClassroomApproaches.html

[10] The Crisis in Civics Education Impacts All of Us - Ashbrook

@ProfessorX

In short, the US Public Schools were taken over by, and then completely occupied Marxist Leftists. This rise of Zionism, and sacrificing American soliders and children for ZOG, is the end-result. It’s the result of letting one’s guard down, allowing a Republic to decay and fall to outside, foreign influence.

Apathy is the last sign of a dying Civilization. The Boomers willingly gave up the future of their NATION, for riches and wealth.

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I prefer this analysis, and that you agree with it 100%??

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@RealUn

It’s liberalism not Marxism for the 1000th time now.

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So you’re a “philosopher for the republic”, which means you sit in your basement posting stuff on internet forums. You’re a real leader of government and political influence :joy:

I agree that classes that would typically cover formal government structures (the federal, state and local branches, and how bills become laws), foundational documents (the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence), and the responsibilities of citizenship (voting, jury service, paying taxes and performing community service) would be beneficial. But the instruction relied on memorising textbooks, lectures and idealised histories of the U.S. founders, with the aim of instilling loyalty, self-reliance and moral virtues such as honesty and hard work, as well as an appreciation for democratic ideals such as equality of opportunity.

Importantly, I would have encouraged students to learn how to become participants in a democratic process, learn to voice their positions from sound and well-founded arguments, and how to inform themselves to that end. For that to work, the politicians would have to welcome such input and help guarantee that citizens are heard. Instead, I have seen schools in Europe teach for exams rather than empowering their students, and from what I have heard from a teacher in Berkeley CA., it wasn’t much different in America.