If I’m going to need university qualifications to point out the fucking obvious, then I’m not going to be able to contribute a lot here.
I said “Someone already said it”
You said “someone else does”
I said, they did it in the PAST, which proves my point.
Hell, if your English degree proves Descarte’s saying it now, and you want to push the issue like a smug fuck, be my guest. But it doesn’t alter my point - that it’s a dead horse - one fucking iota.
BTW, I’m not a university student with any kind of degree. Didn’t know it was a requirement to be taken seriously around here. Shall I grab my coat, then?
You’re right. One can only assume that anything will kill you, as you can never experience death, as death is the end of experiencing anything. So we can only really assume that we will die by any means, and being humans, when we don’t know something from personal experience we guess with logic. I guess that the universe will kill me, and thus, that it exists. If you care to guess otherwise, be my guest. But by the logic of my guess I will outlive you.
You got it. Sorry for over-reacting. I’m still smarting from another thread where someone claimed I can’t use the word “most” until I’ve read everything. It’s had me a bit worried about whether I come up to the lofty standards here
I can’t remember who made this point, but he basically saved philosophy from skeptics. What he said boils down to this:
Some things are given, whether or not you can prove them or not. The sun is going to rise tomorrow, release a rock and it will always go DOWN. There are things that just ARE, and there’s no way to prove them. Things like…your existence. It’s a given, considering that from your point of view, and even from mine, you actually do exist. Even if it’s as a figment of the imagination, you are something, whether or not you can prove it.
“The Universe is real because it can kill you,”? No. The Universe can kill you because you are real.
He is where ever you find value in anything. Or rather, whatever you find worth living for. A little cheezy, but God doesn’t have to be all-powerful to keep you motivated.
Just be kind and be logical and you’ll fit right in here. There are all kinds.
(Although I still don’t understand the importance of something great having been said in the past versus the importance of it being said in a text accessible today.)
My. Aren’t we ego-centric?
I suppose that by my definition of the universe that you’re right though.
Oh, and my real name, I wouldn’t worry too much. If you have to call someone on that, just keep an eye on my posts. It’s not that I don’t try, it’s that I don’t have the patience to read through every post (unless it’s only 1-2 pages. a 24 page thread is just ridiculous though).
