the usa has lost its soul

Lev,

If you want that anybody should engage with you, you have to learn how to talk with people in the first place.
You need not to show your hate, bias and frustration every time by stating irrelvant things.

How Mohammad becomes my friend and how this relates to this subject?
Do you always talk to you parents and other members of your family also in the same way?
Why do you have so much hate, anger and frustration in you?
I do not know but i am sure there must be something seriously wrong with you. Normal persons do not carry that much negativity. It always tries to find excuses to express itself. This post is the perfect example of that.

I am going to report your post for uselessly bringing a founder of a particular religion and insult him.

with love,
sanjay

The war with Mexico is now a “religious war”? :confused:

… it couldn’t have anything to do with territorial rights and political leadership.
:icon-rolleyes:

Artimas

True, it was about retribution, an eye for an eye.
As far as intel, I suppose that it does take time to decipher it, to make sure that the intel is correct. Also, we have the human factor. Perhaps, it was not so easy to digest and to believe, considering what a terrible man’s inhumanity to man the concentration camps were, all of that terrible slaughter. Unfortunately so many innocent human lives were destroyed by Hitler and those other bastards before we were able to finally do something about it. And who was the pope at that time who didn’t speak up for quite some time…Leo something or other. And this is the guy who represents the spirit of God, God’s place on earth? jAnd how long did it take for his apology?

with love,
sanjay

I don’t think it would take too long to decipher German language or Russian, seeing as Germany was well known by all, as was Russia. Unless they had some form of secret linguistics/code.

I agree it probably was not easy to digest or believe, but their delay cost people lives, and that blood is on their hands.

You thought the founders wouldn’t approve military interventionism, phyllo showed you were wrong. You shouldn’t be surprised at being wrong, since your assertion was based on a mere suspicion anyway, so what’s the big deal?
“We need to stop all this military intervention” has as little to do with getting back to the soul of the USA as everything else you guys are saying, is the point.

My point is that what you think isn’t based on reality, you’re just guessing. Talk about ‘the soul of the USA’ is talk about actual history and actual personalities and actual words- you don’t need to make stuff up.

Well, did they back then? No. They didn’t fight wars for other countries, they fought them for themselves. The whole point of which I guess you’re missing.

Who cares what you’re sick of? My point is that you can’t defend your anti-religious crusade on the grounds that it’s getting back to the soul of what the USA is about. It most certainly is not. But then, here you are making my point, willing to shit on the idea of sticking to old traditions at the drop of a hat in a thread that is supposed to be about getting back to the USA’s origins.
And yes, you need to read the actual book he wrote to understand what he meant. I didn’t tell you to base your understanding of Tocqueville on a 30 second Google search, that’s your choice.

There’s something wrong with pretending that the thing you want is about ‘getting back to the soul of the USA’. It’s called ‘lying’.

Except the country was not found on any religion, of which you claimed/implied with Christianity and the “Good” of America deriving out of their traditions. Not the case at all.

Yes. The phrase, “In God we trust” was taken strictly out of the Atheist’s handbook.

You do realize that was added in later on right? LMFAO.

Even a Christian recognizes it.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZBTyTWOZCM[/youtube]

You’re right, it was strictly taken out of the Christian’s handbook.

Never mind that all of the founders were religious and also the later added words were ratified by all states so as to emphasize the fact of it.

You do realize if it was founded upon religion, it wouldn’t be free right? There is no freedom in one, only in two or more/all.

No. That is YOUR religion.

Forcing “god” onto everyone doesn’t seem like much freedom. They stood for freedom of belief and other freedoms. As well as the country founded.

Forcing “No God” onto everyone doesn’t seem like much freedom either. They stood for freedom of belief and other freedoms. As well as the country founded.

LOL that’s the thing, if everyone was knowledgeable, they wouldn’t need it to be forced. They would realize it on their own.

I don’t force, I ask for people to open their own minds to realize they have been duped.

I would agree with you except that you propose that YOU already know, yet not “on your own”.

You are saying that everyone should believe what they are told by a specific group of people. And you are calling that “on their own” and “not religious”. Yet it is exactly religious, merely a different religion, afraid to say “God”.