The (wo)man

Who do you think has more pull or influence on society.

The thinking (wo)man or the working (wo)man?

The working (wo)man, your average every day or perhaps just in general non-average worker that makes society go. It feels as if the majority of working (wo)man only needs a spine, not much of a brain.

The thinking (wo)man, the one who does not settle for the “it is what it is” but settles for the “it isn’t what it could be.”, who faces obstacles for the drive of advancement and new.

I am going to say the thinking (wo)man has more pull on life/society of course. They create the jobs that there are, create the technology people use. It seems as if they create the drive to go, while the working (wo)man just goes.

What do you think?

I see these gender competition threads and I am reminded of the phrase:
No man is an island . Of course this applies to women as well.
Another good applicable phrase: It takes a village to raise a child.
When a person gains influence and power it is due to the people that taught them not just personality and intellect. That education and influence is from both genders.

It has nothing to do with gender, it has to do with a working being and a thinking being.

I put (wo)man because women and men both make up society equally. I did not want to just put “Man”.

Working women/men, thinking women/men.

Ok, but, you did use just man without the wo part… a bit misleading, I apologize for misinterpretations.

Yeah, I will have to edit it. It’s women and men both though, they make up society… not just man or woman. That’s why I put the (wo), equality.

I want to know what people think about who has the most pull.

Genetics has the most pull, not gender. Gender plays a part due to ego and habit.
Take the basic technology of water pipes. Who do you think actually conceived the idea, man or woman?

Not sure honestly who came up with the idea honestly. I am asking who does more for society, the ones who work or the ones who think. That’s it, it’s not about man or woman or genes really. It’s about who has the most influence on society/world… The ones who work, or the ones who think.

Does a being who works the average jobs, or does a being who thinks?

The average being - “It is what it is”

The thinking being - “It isn’t what it could be”

Alright, good. The thinker or the worker. Both. With out the worker finding issues and giving suggestions, the thinkers would not have a platform. The reverse is true too. Look at pipes for water again. One had a need and an idea, one conceived of the way, one had to know how to make, one had to understand pressure, and one or two had to build… Could only one create plumbing? No. It took the knowledge of laborers and thinkers to make it happen. Both must influence the project to make it successful.
:slight_smile: We used to own an irrigation company, engineers were the worst customers, they had no working understanding of irrigation just the "science " of it. They cost themselves money by dictating wrong ways.Eventually most finally listened to experience of laborers.

What do you mean by thinking woman?

I don’t see women contributing to human knowledge or pursuing intellectual endeavors, do you? Every woman I’ve met is anti-intellectual.

Plenty of women who are intellectual.

If you want to keep this thread true to your intent, ignore the antagonists. Or try to, it can be hard.

Why didn’t you simply use “human”?

In other words ignore everybody with a different opinion than you? Seriously, it’s so easy to argument against an extreme position such as women not being intellectual, yet you somehow manage to make yourself look incompetent and cowardly and even worse, ANTI-INTELLECTUAL, which is exactly what he argues for. You would have been better off not giving a reply at all than unwillingly ending up supporting his position.

Me??

That’s true though, I should have just put human.

Maybe, but I’ve never met one in my life. And I don’t expect to either.

I think you haven’t factored in the ‘thinking (wo)man’ for the majority are regurgitators of the status quo and refractors of the system’s prejudices and choices.

The fad of individuality is over-rated, as rebellion and free-spiritedness is subsumed under peer-reviews and one more profitable franchise for security (read: sheltering) ensuring ‘god-spheres’.

There is a big difference between opinion and provocation. His was a provocation.

You don’t need to meet one for them not to be there.

When you walk around blindly stating what isn’t, you will blindly miss what is.

the hand that rocks the cradle rules the world…maybe…maybe not

Thinking humans invent; working humans apply. Both are necessary.

Without the thinking human inventing, would there be work for the average laboring human to apply?