I do know that our son knew us imediately after birth but, that was learned.
I do know he knew how to suck imediately
I do know that he screamed like hellfire at being in the arms of the nurses and the doctor, but quieted once he was safe in ours. that is knowing a difference.
I do know that he niether laughed nor smiled for the first month or so but he sure knew how to scream his head off in anger, pain and fear. This is common, quite common, more the norm than rare. Unfortunately. If you have ever been woke up by a screaming infant you understand why this is unfortunate.
Babies have certain limited survival abilities or instincts, they need them just as much as other infant creatures.
saying that all knowlege is instinctive at that age is irrelevant, its still innate knowlege, your just grouping everything that is not learned into that category
No, what I am saying is that knowledge doesn’t exist period at that age with instinctual qualities or reflexes in infants being the only thing that exists.
Most forms of acquisition on infants and children is forced or coerced by society’s social constructivism which is the slave of public civic determinism.
Joker, My friend, Babies want clean diapers and food. In the first 5 to 10 months of their lives they are doing as much forcing and coercion as the parent. It is the parent that learns to be a slave.
From 10 months to 36 months the baby is a sponge.
From 36 months on up the baby is in a constant battle of wills with the adults surrounding them, then they become adults.
I can’t really ask you to take my word on this, but you will find that the believers in the metaphysical meme, are great in numbers here.
They will not be swayed by fact or empiricism from the position either.
Sometimes you just have to walk away from some discussions, they are absolutely fruitless, and either yield zero results, or copious amounts of negative results.
Fight/flight preservation from the reptilian part of the mind. They “know” nothing, until the experience it directly, and “pain” is a simple neurochemical response, which through the millennium, was encoded to mean “death”.
All animals respond to pain, as a negative stimuli. There is no contemplation or use of executive function, which would be knowing.
I believe the premise was innate knowledge, which is entirely different from primal instinct.
An innate knowledge does not have to be contemplated. To me, even an instinct is a form of an innate knowledge. Take migratory animals, for example. They “know” where they are supposed to go, even though they might have never been there before.
There are a number of reasons why migratory animals appear to know where to go, and it is not knowledge, it is experiential memory, and changes that occur that trigger a biochemical urge to migrate. Seasonal and light changes, electromagnetic changes along the Earth, lunar changes, migratory shifts in prey species, as well as chemical markers left by other members of their species. Technically, anything but knowing, all reactionary biochemical response.
You may assume that instinct is innate knowledge, but that is incorrect and defies all of the empirically accepted definitions.
