I conceive thought as something beyond action in which it has no practical purpose but is ultimately a transcendence from the physical into the purely mental. Thoughts for me are effortless where as physical action causes much grief. Yet, to escape to thoughts away from actions is not to escape the reality of action but to embrace the inner essence of those actions. Theoretical thought involves one to actual think about actions without actually intending to act nor infact acting. Thought without action does not become an activity detached from reality but it becomes an action detached from our own subjectivity which directly corrupts reality. Our actions are subjective thus they interfere with our vision of reality and by preforming thought without action one can remove the subjectivity and enter thought by which our vision of reality is objective. Thought without action is the key. Action without thought leads us to furthermore confuse the subjective and objective regarding them as one and the same thing we both call “reality”.
isis77 has a habit of writing metaphysically, he must be very fond of Hegel.
by 1st bold, thought is not beyond action, but that it causes action.
by 2nd bold, if thought is non-physical, can it exist without the physical body? by mental do you mean, non -physical? in this way you are talking about mind body dualism again.
Thoughts may be effortless for you maybe you have not thought hard enough on difficult issues
I hope, by the inner essence of actions you are not referring to do things for the sake of things themselves?
just like one can think of a meat pie without actually wanting to eat one. by ‘think about actions’ you mean fantasies without the will to carry out the fantasy.
you mean, fantasies does not become reality that interfers with their objective norishment of sensibility?
but if our thoughts becomes a vision of objective reality, what does the Actual reality or indeed the transcendental apex of metaphysical desire for transcendence interact with the pure understanding of visionary expectation of the self, without itself becoming contraditory?
if fantasy is the key, then you must always interfer with yourself at night while looking at dirty pictures.
but if objectivity is removed from the subjective, can action really become ours subjectively speaking? if not, the objective subjectification of self actualisation is lost.
Lord Almighty, I have never seen such confused thread as this.
PINNACLE, you are supposed to illuminate not ob·fus·cate what Isis said. Read your own post and see if it makes sense to you. I’d be glad to come back and comment. Until then…ciao.
Language is spatiotemporal. It cannot be used to accurately describe the aspatiotemporal.
Therefore metaphysics isn’t possible in language.
(Rorty)
isis,
what do you mean by saying that thoughts are objective? why are they objective and actions not?
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Hello isis,
I tried to understand your post, but it got me. I dont understand the depth of your concepts, that is - just how abstract is your use of the words thought and action. I feel as those the first half of your post, the descriptive, was on a different layer of deepness as the second half, the prescriptive part.
I interpreted the first half as basically stating that thought precedes action. Yet in the second half you explicitly state that “action without thought” is possible - which signals to me that either I have no idea what you’re talking about or that you’ve changed the depth of the words.
Additionally, I dont understand how action corrupts reality or how thought without action could resolve this corruption - or even how a objective vision of reality is even possible.
you dont think you make a action you might regret
you think then make a action you just never know…
arendt
oh please, you know just as well as anyone here that isis77 is just an abstract linguist. he is talking rubbish in order to conceil his ignorance. Therefore I fight ignorance with ignorance. I know as much of my post as isis77 knows his.
isis77 can’t even talk properly, he violated the first principle of communication, that is to inspire understanding in the yet unluminated. I wonder why he even bother, when people like myself sees through him so easily.
it does seem a surprise that he got anvildoc thinking.