thoughts on determinism

It’s not a matter of importance, it is a matter of clarity. If we use the abortion issue, precisely as I said in my post but which you did not respond to, we are complicating the test case. We have the issue of responsibility in relation to determinism AND we have all the conflicts about whether abortion is immoral. For that reason I chose an example where, hopefully, there is vastly less over whether the act is wrong or not for most people.

We can go on later and see how this works out in relation to abortion, once the less controversial issue is dealt with. The focus is responsibility if determinism is the case. My example, allows us to look at that.

I put some time and effort into my response showing that if determinism is the case, people can still be held responsible. Could you please respond to that argument?

I promise to then move on to abortion, if you want.

There are two issues here. Can we hold someone responsible for their actions in a determinist universe and then what do we do in relation to conflicting goods. I am happy to tackle the second issue one we look at the first one regarding a less contentious example.