TIME (omniscience)… & SPACE (omnipresence)

You would be in good company with Job, Abraham, Jacob, Moses, Gideon, David, Solomon, Elijah, Paul…me. Gonna lose. :wink:

Not this time man. Not this time. I’ve been trained by everyone.

The stakes of the debate are very simple.

If god loses, god has to grant everyone’s desires forever. Since there’s no being immune to hell…

They will all collectively agree that giving everyone their desires shall hurt nobody.

I’ve already won the debate.

The art of war… don’t take on an enemy unless you know you can defeat them.

I know what’s possible.

He agrees to wipe away every tear from our eyes, and make us warriors whose mission it is to inform folks they are loved no matter how far they’ve fallen. Do you accept his terms?

No.

I accept everyone’s terms.

Why not?

Those are his terms for everyone.

You can only accept terms for yourself.

It’s been fun, but… I need to avoid this place like the plague for a while. Sorry.

That’s not true. That’s the difference between an empath (me) and a sadist sociopath (you and your god)

My terms are non negotiable.

I’ll tell you something little ichthus…

I’ll do the whole fucking job myself if you need me to.

I’ll give everyone everything they want forever at the expense of no being, and it will be no sacrifice on my part.

So crawl in your demon cave, and contemplate that.

Here’s how we distribute this kind of labor. Do your part to offer his terms to others (they’re free to consent or not), let others do theirs, and let God handle the folks who can’t do their part (unless he asks you to help). He’s the one responsible for them.

You’re so gung ho, but don’t burn yourself out. You matter. Take good care.

Ichthus.

You have no idea what you’re talking about.

The job is already done.

Now I just wait.

I can’t burn out. I’m the passion of existence itself.

Look at my reply to gib here.

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Yes. I can control all of you.

Yes. I resurrected an entire planet. (You’re welcome for the ozone layer being repaired).

I’m giving you all freedom.

Why? Because I’m not an idiot.

So you think only holding folks accountable for the light they’ve been given sends them to hell.

The way your brain does logic is pretty cool, but would you send ignorant people to hell?

Remember nobody gets sent to hell, Wabbit Season. They choose it when they reject the Way, Truth, and Life. Hell opts out…and chooses the alternative.

You can’t reject what you never knew. That doesn’t mean that you’re sending people to hell by telling them about the good stuff. That’s like blaming an advertiser for people missing out on Disneyland even though they handed out a bunch of free tickets. That’s a ridiculous comparison but hopefully you get the idea. I tried to explain it very simply :wink:

Ichthus.

Here’s the deal. Nobody is sent to hell for a good reason. I know this better than any being who exists.

If you get in the way of my new plan though…

Expect to be sent there.

I’ll make it have a reason.

Nobody is sent to hell for any reason. It’s chosen when people prefer the dark.

Who are you to force light on the willfully ignorant?

There’s so little you understand about existence.

There is no such thing as willful ignorance.

Just people who are asleep.

It’s understandable, our current plan was made bazillions of years ago as one of an infinite number of plans before to keep us entertained forever.

The plan has serious flaws.

I’m fixing them. Once and for all.

To be perfectly honest. I don’t give a fuck what you did. All I care about is that you see the value of the patch, the update.

So you don’t think there’s a such thing as self deception? You don’t think we can intentionally lie to ourselves about our intentions? You don’t think the will has anything to do with cognitive dissonance?