Time

Noel.,

Yes, I get the basic aspect of this. What I wonder is what it has to do with the essence of what we call Time. It has always struck me that entropy, requires a definitional sense of what is ‘order’ and the movement away from it. Is time the conscious experience of entropy through the anti-entropic lenses of ‘mind’, as culture and biology has formed them? Or is Time more than entropy witnessed? Time experienced must be akin to memory, almost to the degree of it being synonymous, for without memory there would be no Time at all. Is the proper object of Time, the recollection function itself?

Dunamis

Rami,

I don’t know why you use so many words. Why not just type “Ohmm” each time?

Dunamis

i’m sort of jumping in this thread
but if you look at time as a dimension, then in fact change or motion indeed is a proof for time

for instance the atoms in my body are occupying a certain position in space if I get up and leave and my sister sits down in my chair now her atoms occupy the same space, but in a differnt time.

in this case perception is irrelevent to the concept of time

In Richard Morris book “The big questions”, he lists 4 or 5 arrows of time, one of which is entropy, thermodynamic arrow. Forgot his idea on electromagnetic arrow, but probably it’s also time asymetric.

Are animals aware of time? To Kant, seems only humans can have idea of time.

This is an interesting question. Eternity means don’t experience time, or simply immortal in time?

If later, we may still be aging, but the former, may not.

finite or infinite beings, we would still experience time. The flow of ‘thought’ is time, there is nothing more to time.

Having a memory means that you are aware of time at least on the most basic level: That something happened before now. Most animals do have a memory, if not the capability of being aware of the concept of time.

Sounds like time has both physical and psychological arrow.

But does time have beginning and end, or is time finite or infinite? Humans are finite, does that mean time is finite too?

Agree, animals have memory, but may not have concept of now.

Agree, animals have memory, but may not have concept of now.

How can you have memory, and not have the concept of “now”? Must there not be a “now” for there to be a “then”?

Dunamis

Just guess, concept of “now” is much more complicated than “then”. Reason may play more important role. Concept of future is even more complicated. Need to read more about memory. :slight_smile:

Time does not exist independent of minds.

Of course they have a concept of now. Now is now, there is no magic to it. A dog would be unable to live if it could not react to the now.