There are other intelligences besides humans interacting with this world.
Some of them are malevolent, some benevolent… they scare humans. The highest beings can create universes from their minds… lower beings are the ones conspiracy theorists often point to.
It should be noted that higher beings can create an entire universe just to send them to hell. I wouldn’t worry too much about these beings or secret societies in general… we are not in a good planet, it was constructed by a malevolent being, but there is a much larger cosmos than this universe… and all of these beings will have a reckoning at some point. This planet was not raised well, which means the controllers are in BIG trouble. The thing about ethics, is that it doesn’t matter whether you are ignorant or not… you still discipline a child in some way if it begins to hit you as a parent. In the same way, even if these beings are ignorant, they will be disciplined.
Yes. People often say you cannot have good without bad, to these people, I say, you have not experienced much bad. It’s easy to understand bad without being bad in any universe. That’s what imagination and simulation is for, to understand the consequences of actions.
You’re right Kris… I was inarticulate. What I meant to say was that you don’t need to do bad things to have bad urges, and it’s or simulations and imaginations which prevent us from acting upon these urges.
Your theory has the effect of driving man away from the world, because it is a reason to “feel good” or at least feel ok about the deplorable state of things in the world without feeling any need to do anything about it.
When a person feels powerless in relation to the problems they perceive, a compensation strategy is needed in the mind to stave off psychological pain and anguish and loss of vitality; your theory of “this world is bad, created by malevolent beings, not managed well, the ‘universe’ is better anyway and anyway these malevolent ones will get what’s coming to them in the end” fits that bill perfectly.
If there really are malevolent beings “managing” this world as you say, one of the best weapons they would have is a theory that convinces people they dont need to feel worry, fear or anguish over not doing anything to make things better because “all’s right in the end anyway” and “they will get what they deserve”. A theory exactly like yours more better qualifies as a passifying world-denying religion than anything else.
But I’m sure it had been psychologically important for you to learn to see things in this way.
I’m well aware of this. Actually, I have been connected with the spirit world for some time now… I won’t get into details, but my impression is that this planet was managed horribly from knowledge I’ve accumulated, and that there are beings who absorb multiple dimensions who take care of these situations… even though it wasn’t taken care of in the past. So apparently some malevolent being was given free reign over this world for a long time, and this is being brought to the attention of beings that have lots of other things to do… I don’t believe in omniscience, I believe in infinite networking.
A being on a higher plane can see our entire worlds history up until now as easily as you can pick up a pencil and turn it around and look at the whole pencil. I’ve seen some serious stuff on this earth when it comes to higher beings… so I perhaps blindly trust that this situation will be handled appropriately. But I understand where you’re coming from.
Let me put it to you this way, and this is nothing compared to what I’ve actually seen with my own eyes here on earth… there was a being who didn’t want me to drink coffee, so when i was walking back with my cup, it boiled the coffee in my cup as I was holding it in my hands… the cup was so hot I had to toss the coffee out. I’ve had LOTS of experiences like this here.
A lack of a reply… your notion of morality is to “drink vodka”?
If this is anything like your ignorant narcissistic trolling in HMIE’s thread about Pluto, I guess I won’t act surprised. But I will continue to reserve judgment until you actually demonstrate some work on your part (either an effort in thought or in mathematics).
Everyone has a different biochemistry. And how on earth am I trolling on a numerology thread when describing that mathematics is a social convention because of infinity. There are an infinite number of ways to write every theorem, there are infinite bases, when people start getting superstitious about numerology I call them on it. It’s about standardizing not about some absolute law, and the standardizations are made by humans… two people agreed with me in that thread already, so clearly I am not trolling. From what i could see HMIE is spamming, which is a form of trolling… but I’ll make my comments and move on.
And any “human standardizing” is going to take place upon larger, extra-human concerns and reality, by necessity. Nothing is isolate in this existence, things emerge from other things and there are plethora of connections gross and subtle. Numbers are one way of extracting kinds of relations. Math is a ‘pure language’ and as such can be abused by those who have no idea what is meant by the “words” (numbers and symbols) that math “speaks” in.
Saying there are “infinite number of ways to write a theorem” is not even an argument.
You know what Mechanical… I actually think you made a really great discovery, but I’m trying to explain to you (by the way coming in this thread with this information rather than the other thread is trolling, but I don’t care) that because bases are infinite and theorems can be derived in an infinite number of forms… that you shouldn’t get too superstitious about numbers. I think you fellows need a paradigm shift in your understanding of numbers, I see what you discovered and I understand the implications of it fully. Please do not call me a troll.
Sorry, the moderator deleted my topic. I will re-post the relevant part, where I demonstrate that I am certainly on-topic here.
I apologize for calling you a troll. There are so many around here that I am getting jumpy about anyone who comes in and starts talking about things he isn’t willing to actually engage and work on.
You are right about base systems, we can use any base we like. But the “suspicions about the numbers” has nothing to do with a given base, these “strange connections” will appear anywhere, however it will be easier to see them in say base 9 or 10 than in base 2 or 3 or 23 or 200.