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My Ten Favorite Sports Teams (Or Players for individual sports)

1.) New England Patriots (NFL)-Grew up with them as my favorite.
2.) Rutgers Scarlet Knights (NCAA Football) I don’t even know why.
3.) Philadelphia Flyers (NHL)-Grew up with them as my favorite.
4.) Kansas City Royals (MLB)-Lived in KC.
5.) Aresnal Gunners (Premier League Football)-Picked a random team when I started following Premier League Football.
6.) Dallas Desperadoes (AFL)-Cool logo.
7.) Davis Love III (PGA)-Genuinely nice guy, pretty smart also.
8.) Houston Texans (NFL)-Because nobody else seems to care.
9.) Pittsburgh Pirates (MLB)-Lovable Losers.
10.) Duke Blue Devils (NCAA Basketball)-Grew up following them.

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Ghostface Killa
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2pac
Dre
Outkast
UGK
Clipse
Lil Wayne
Jay Z

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Not always. I remember watching Kent Tekulve pitch in the '79 World Series where they beat the Oriels.

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That’s true, but that happened a little over four years before I was born!

I have only followed them at all since 2001 and they have been consistently horrible. All of their really good players, except Jack Wilson, have been traded or have not been re-signed.

Jason Kendall…gone
Bryan Giles…gone
Jason Bay…gone

Poor Pirates and Royals, I’ve always thought that if you combined their rosters and whittled the combination down to the best 40 men you might just have an average team.

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Top ten words that I like, based on my perceived aesthetic value of them

  1. level - man, I get a hardon for this one. Look at that. It’s so balanced.
  2. salient
  3. motive / motivate - a very useful word that should be used more often
  4. purple - rolls off the tongue
  5. truth
  6. sever - See that ‘V’ in the middle? That’s fucking genius right there
  7. fervent
  8. fuck - this word is so popular because it just sounds so good: Fuck. Like a cork flying off a champagne bottle.
  9. temerity
  10. annihilate - such a multi layered word
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"Ed3: What about Rogers Hornsby & the jerk?

K: Hornsby was on my short list and pete rose was was never the best player on any team
he played for or if by jerk you meant Ty cobb he was also on the short list.

Ed: Can I get special mention for Joe Maurer? – Team Catcher Maybe?

K: Mauer isn’t even on the list. The only two catchers right now on the list is bench and berra.

Ed: Personally, I like Hank better than Barry -steroids and all ya know

K: Bonds is a better player in every way shape and form. Bonds has several golden gloves,
stole bases, better speed, better batting numbers. The only real downside to bonds was
his arm and it was average during his best years and really went down the last few years
but bonds had a great release and knew exactly where to throw the ball at all times.
Hank was rarely ever the best player on his own team, least the best player in his division.
Barry was quite often the best player in baseball, period.

ED: Do you have a list for pitchers? It has to include Koufax."

K: I have had fights with friends for years about koufax, I feel he is overrated, and
my friends think underrated. I am working up a pitcher list as we speak.

Kropotkin

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Your list is crap. Half those players wouldnt be good enough to make it on an ML team nowadays.

Can you imagine if you had to build your team around a player in his prime and you could choose Alex Rodriguez or Babe Ruth. No one in their right mind would choose Ruth.

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Would you live in Alaska, where you would have 6 months of darkness. Could you really take that? That would take some getting used to, wouldn’t it. I actually prefer moonlight to sunlight, but probably only because I get the sunlight too. I have heard that the crime rate is highest in Alaska than anywhere else in this country…I don’t know.

Thanks for mentioned Jersey and here I am… do you really think collectively we have an awesome sense of humor? Thank you. :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :laughing: :banana-dance: :banana-dance: :banana-dance: :banana-dance:

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Peter Kropotkin: top ten baseball players of all time

  1. Babe Ruth (like there was any other choice)
  2. Willie Mays
  3. Frank Robinson
  4. Bonds, Barry Bonds
  5. Lou Gerhig
  6. Tris Speaker
  7. Stan Musial
  8. Honus Wagner
  9. Jimmy Fox
  10. Ted Willams

MJ: Your list is crap. Half those players wouldnt be good enough to make it on an ML team nowadays.

K: This statement makes me question if you have ever actually seen a baseball game.
Every person on that list is a hall of famer with bonds going into the hall in 5 years.

MJ: Can you imagine if you had to build your team around a player in his prime and you could choose Alex Rodriguez or Babe Ruth. No one in their right mind would choose Ruth."

K: this statement convinces me you have no idea what you are talking about. I am very close to putting Ruth
on my list of ten best PITCHERs of all time. A-rod couldn’t even hold Ruth jockstrap. At this point, I am not convince A-ROD
is top 20 in baseball history.

Kropotkin

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Wow. Just wow.

First of all you basically just reiterated your original post. Ill paraphrase your response for you…

“You dont know what your talking about. These guys are good!”

Real intelligent there.

No halfway intelligent person would pit the athletes of today against the athletes of 30 years ago LET ALONE 70 years ago. They are an entirely different breed today. Do you even know what Babe Ruths fastball would be clocked at today? He wouldnt be playing D1 college ball let alone MLB.

Secondly, half the “athletes” on your list played in an ALL WHITE or MOSTLY WHITE league. They werent even competing against the best of the best. Pathetic.

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:laughing:
3 beer
4 beer
7beer
8 beer
9beer
10beer - Kris you kill me :laughing:

1Lemonade? I’d never have guessed… :confused:

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…I get you now - Nas does use internal rhyming, but not consistently throughout a whole album like Eminem would, and his style is slower, or do I just think that he’s cute and would be in my top 10. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Hi Peter,

I meant Ty Cobb to be the jerk. Good guess!

Maurer, being active and only 26(?), is way too young to put on any all time list. But since he was the only catch ever to lead the MLB in hitting, I’m pretty sure that his record will last a very long time. Pretty good at defense too!

I’m very surprised that you didn’t go along with Koufax – living in California and all. I thought his last 4 years or so were very spectacular. But I do know that you can make a case against him on average.

I do think that Bob Gibson should be on a pitching list, and I’m curious what you think about Bob Feller.

Thanks Ed

Hi MJ,

I second Peter’s comments, and would add that the stats are all on Ruth’s side.

I’m just curious. How many of todays’ players can throw a baseball at 110 miles per hour?

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None can. Whats with the rediculous question?

Stats are on Ruths side? Didnt I just dismantle that logic in my previous post? You ignored it. Very clever.

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  1. Babe Ruth (like there was any other choice)
  2. Willie Mays
  3. Frank Robinson
  4. Bonds, Barry Bonds
  5. Lou Gerhig
  6. Tris Speaker
  7. Stan Musial
  8. Honus Wagner
  9. Jimmy Fox
  10. Ted Willams

MJ: Your list is crap. Half those players wouldnt be good enough to make it on an ML team nowadays.

K: let us break this down. Who exactly is crap? Wouldn’t make it on a ML team? are you kidding me?
Ok, ruth the greatest right fielder of all time. Name me a current right fielder who is better then babe ruth.
Mays a center fielder, who is better then mays playing today? My guess is you don’t know who most of this people are.
So we follow the list down Robinson and musial, two totally forgotten players today, (both still alive by the way)
but both could hit for power, average and play defense. Robinson won the triple crown two separate years in different divisions
Speed, wasn’t really part of the game in that period.
Speaker and Wagner. Speaker career average .345 hits 3514, stolen bases 432, most career doubles in mlb history 792,
most career outfield assists 494, fifth highest batting average in mlb history, batted over .380 five times, consider the greatest
center fielder before mays, 3 times world series winner.
Wagner. bill james considers him the second greatest player ever behind ruth, career ba .327, hits 3415, stolen bases 722 still 10th all
time leading base stealer, 3 time world series champ, all century team, consider the best player of the dead ball era and cobb who played
then agreed.
Jimmy fox who was out of baseball at age 33, (bottle) career ba .325, home runs 534, 12 consecutive seasons of 30 home runs a record until
2004 broken by …bonds. 9 times all star, 2 times world series champ, 3 times AL MVP, 1 triple crown.
Ted williams just speaks for himself. Now tell me who today compares to these gentlemen. I mean seriously.

K: I made the mistake of assuming you actually knew something about baseball and didn’t need to bring out
stats, but I was wrong.

MJ: “You dont know what your talking about. These guys are good!”

K: you don’t know what you are talking about, these guys are good and the facts, stats support this.

MJ: Real intelligent there.

K: I can read stats and that is intelligent.

MJ: No halfway intelligent person would pit the athletes of today against the athletes of 30 years ago LET ALONE 70 years ago. They are an entirely different breed today. Do you even know what Babe Ruths fastball would be clocked at today? He wouldnt be playing D1 college ball let alone MLB.

K: Unlike you, I don’t make suppositions as to who can do what when I have no evidence. I can only work with the evidence, stats, and the stats
are quite clear and some stats are really clear, doubles, steals, triple crowns, you can’t fool with those. They are what they are.

MJ: Secondly, half the “athletes” on your list played in an ALL WHITE or MOSTLY WHITE league. They werent even competing against the best of the best.

K: so what? You play the hand you are dealt and they did. Now make your argument based on stats instead of suppositions, could of, would of, should of.

Kropotkin

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Top ten rock bands of all time.

  1. Beatles, enough said.
  2. The Who
  3. Pink floyd
  4. rolling stones, who I hate.
  5. Grateful dead
  6. the police
  7. U-2
  8. Led Zep
  9. Doors
  10. queen or eagles

and that is the list.

Kropotkin

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Holy crap. Holy crap. Holy crap.

You have no idea how to form a coherant argument. You just listed everyones stats and said “See this guys stats?! He’s good” How about we try to ad a little bit of intelligence and human reasoning instead of looking at stat sheets OK?

This argument is already over. If stats are what you go by then you lose because that top ten list doesnt have the ten best statistcial players of all time.

If your going to use reasoning and logic you lose because half of the players on that list wouldnt be fit to play college ball, which I already said. They played in an era that was EXTREMELY weak as far as competition goes.

Either way you lose. Babe Ruth, Frank Robinson, Willie Mays, Lou Gherrig, Tris Speaker (OMG Are you kidding me?!), Stan Musial (How dense are you?!) etc… That ENTIRE LIST is a joke. They wouldnt bat .200 in todays game.

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Hi MJ,

I’m sorry, I missed the compelling logic of your statement:
“Half those players wouldnt be good enough to make it on an ML team nowadays”

Bob Feller, in what I mistakenly thought was a well known experiment, had his fastball clocked at 110 miles per hour. I saw a film of the experiment, which used a motorcycle, in a physics class. It was generally agreed that the cycle had a head start.

You are right; they can not do that any more.

Ed

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Was it in a game? I didnt think so.

Players in the 30’s are clocked in the 60 mph range. They dont even reach 70.

What a joke.

No common sense.