Traditional Marxism versus New Age Liberal BS

MrAuthoritarian · November 25, 2025, 1:30am

And the political honeymoon is over, I am starting to hate this fucking idiot and those just like him.

The biggest problem of feminism is the one sided notion that all problems, conflicts, and dilemmas is due to men only. That all human problems solely derive from men.

If there truly is equality or equity we would then say that problems that exist between the genders are shared between men and women. Men have problems and women have problems also, but with modern feminism the sole blame or responsibility is always pushed onto men. All criticisms directed only towards men. If you criticize women or females it is impolitically correct to do so, female criticism becomes politically censored.

Not only is this wrong it is dangerous because the moment you make a majority of men feel recklessly abandoned you create a sort of reckless anger, rage, and feelings of retribution. Large numbers of angry men become dangerous especially when they organize themselves politically.

Also, this saying that men are responsible for all horrors, violence, and tyranny of this world throughout human history is a way of absolving women of all culpability. I think that is a mistake and error.

Female sexual capitalism has a lot to do with human inequality and inequity, yet no feminist dares to breach that subject. Why is that? The primary source of male aggression is sexual scarcity and that sexual scarcity has everything to do with female sexual capitalism that sees a majority of men as being sexually expendable. [That sees a majority of men as being not sexually desirable. ]

All of these things are interconnected, female sexual hypergamy, just another word for sexual capitalism revolves around sexual inequality, another contributing factor to male aggression.

Forcing a majority of males into sexual celibacy, chronic singleness, or eternal loneliness is a recipe for disaster. Under Marxism we would be trying to find collective political solutions to these problems, but with liberal douchebags they much rather pretend such problems don’t exist at all letting them fester getting much more worse overtime.

These effeminate liberal men also seem content to blame all males as well for all the problems of the world just like their liberal feminist counterparts.

Radical feminism is not a Marxist creation, it is a liberal one.

MrAuthoritarian · November 25, 2025, 2:04am

What always amazes me in human history especially in this so called era of tolerance, enlightenment, equality, and equity is the prevailing notion that the majority of the poor male working class is sacrificial or expendable. The one thing throughout the historical ages that never changes, that always remains the same.

These liberals always dance around the issue because it is one reality they rather not talk about. They rather just sweep it under the rug pretending none of it exists at all.

Ichthus77 · November 25, 2025, 7:47am

This would make more sense if it was posted by somebody like Ecmandu or futureone, but you are married, supposedly.

One can only guess that your wife is waiting for your consent and that all your behaviors are no.

Bob · November 25, 2025, 10:41am

As usual, I will come at this from a different perspective.

The fear of the divine feminine is deeply rooted in systems of domination. Those in positions of political, religious or cultural power depend on maintaining hierarchies based on obedience, separation and the suppression of the intuitive, relational and nurturing qualities often associated with the feminine principle. Acknowledging the divine feminine affirms a source of wisdom and strength arising from within individuals rather than from external authority. This undermines the very foundation of institutional power, which relies on dependency and control.

When individuals or communities embrace the feminine through empathy, creativity, compassion or reverence for life, they become self-governing, guided by conscience and connection rather than coercion. Such independence is inherently subversive. It resists manipulation and refuses blind allegiance. In this sense, the feminine is not about gender, but about a balancing force that calls for wholeness rather than hierarchy. Anyone who embodies this wholeness challenges oppressive systems simply by existing.

The crucifixion of Jesus can be understood in this light. Rooted in love, forgiveness and radical equality, his message embodied the integration of masculine and feminine energies: strength and tenderness, authority and humility. He recognised the divine in outcasts, women and the poor, thus confronting the patriarchal religious and imperial powers of his time. His death was political and symbolic: a rejection of compassion as weakness and a violent assertion of control by those threatened by the transformative power of love.

This dynamic persists today. When people respond with compassion to the suffering of others, such as those protesting against the atrocities in Gaza, they awaken the same archetype that has frightened the powerful in every age. Systems of domination view compassion as a form of rebellion because it eradicates the fear upon which oppression thrives. The violent responses, whether through physical repression, character assassination or disinformation, expose the insecurity of power confronted with moral integrity.

This is the root of what many describe as “toxic masculinity”, which is not a condemnation of men, but of a distorted cultural ideal that equates strength with domination, control and suppression of feelings. True masculinity, balanced with the feminine, is protective and creative rather than conquering and consuming. The healing of our societies depends on this reconciliation. When the feminine is honoured alongside the masculine, when compassion and justice meet, power transforms from domination into service.

These reflections resonate with some of Marx’s core critiques of domination, hierarchy and alienation, while extending his analysis into spiritual, psychological and archetypal dimensions that are not overtly present in his materialist framework. Fundamentally, Marx’s work opposes the maintenance of oppressive power structures — be they political, religious, or cultural — that rely on obedience, separation, and the suppression of authentic human capacities for connection and creativity. The concept of the ‘divine feminine’ embodying intuitive, relational, and nurturing attributes resonates with Marx’s vision of a society where individuals can flourish collectively, free from the stifling authority of the state, church, or capital.

MrAuthoritarian · November 25, 2025, 11:28am

@Ichthus77

Yes, I am married and I have a wife along with a daughter. But there was a time I was a single man where I can sympathize with them. I also have several sons.

What’s the matter? You can dish out plenty of criticism of men but cannot take it when criticisms are directed to women?

I always like hearing the wailing of feminists especially when their own absurd hypocrisies are pointed out in the spotlight. The way you all throw tantrums when you become criticized yourselves just like spoiled children.

MrAuthoritarian · November 25, 2025, 11:44am

@Bob

One of my favorite liberals here on the forum.

So tell me, can femininity ever be toxic? Can women themselves at all be toxic?

Or, are you just going to offer a one sided view against men like everybody else does nowadays?

Ichthus77 · November 25, 2025, 12:17pm

I’ll take this one, Bob.

My feelings inspired by this thread would be best expressed with my own version of Hawkmoon 269 by U2.

takes fingers out of armpits and sniffs them

Like a poke in the eye

Like a burnt stick in a stye

I need your love

Like a drifter needs rain

Like a hurricane

I need your love

Like stepping on leggos

Like sitting on icepicks

Like undercooked chicken

Like tidalwaves

I need your love

Like getting a call

And you don’t know who it is

Like drinking after a toddler

Like heartburn

I need your love (I need your love)

When the night has no end

And I still have to work

As you spin me around

I need your love

Like an act done discretely needs a livestream

Like the booty call of a bitter frienemy

I need your love

Like a vampire needs the sun

Like silver bullet from a gun

Like garlic on the tongue

Like crucifixion

I need your love (I need your love)

When the dusk is far behind us

And the dawn set to begin

Like a dematerializing monster

I need your love

Like a cheater ought to win

Like the media hates the spin

Like a lying politician

Like a shit stain

I need your love

Like a user is disabled

Like fishing fables

Like multiplication tables

Like the mome raths out grabe bull

I need your love

Like light needs the dark

Like goodness needs sin

I need your love

Like forests need a park

Like bitumen pitch

I need your love

In the heat of the love in the heart

Bob · November 25, 2025, 12:26pm

Of course, femininity can manifest as toxic behaviour, and women, like anyone else, can exhibit such behaviour. The concept of ‘toxic femininity’ refers to harmful patterns or traits associated with societal expectations of women, in the same way that ‘toxic masculinity’ describes harmful male stereotypes. Examples of toxic femininity include excessive passivity, self-sacrifice, emotional manipulation and people-pleasing. These behaviours reinforce rigid gender norms that restrict authentic self-expression and harm both women and those around them.

Signs of toxic femininity include internalising and enforcing stereotypes that women should be submissive, passive or overly nurturing to the detriment of their own well-being. It can also manifest as manipulative behaviours, such as using emotions to control or make others feel guilty, indirect aggression (e.g. gossiping or social exclusion) or making others dependent. Other signs include avoiding confrontation, neglecting boundaries, and chronic approval-seeking, which often create unhealthy relationship dynamics and power imbalances. Additionally, bullying, jealousy and rivalry among women based on beauty, ageing or professional success are also signs of toxic femininity.

However, toxicity is not gender exclusive. Both men and women can be toxic. Toxicity is not exclusive to masculinity or any single gender. It is a set of maladaptive behaviours and attitudes, such as manipulation, domination or self-neglect, that can occur in anyone. It reflects unhealthy ways of relating to oneself and others and is often driven by rigid cultural norms. Addressing these patterns in both men and women, inclusive of all gender identities, promotes healthier relationships and fairer social structures. Recognising toxic femininity enables a more balanced and nuanced discussion rather than a one-sided critique.

While highlighting toxic masculinity is common in public discourse, acknowledging toxic femininity is equally important in order to avoid one-sidedness. Both concepts critique the negative impact of narrow gender expectations and unhealthy behaviours. Greater awareness supports well-being and authentic selfhood for everyone and combats the false notion that only one gender can contribute to societal harm.

Many commentators and spiritual teachers assert that embracing the ‘divine feminine’ is a way of overcoming toxic femininity. The divine feminine is described as an expansive, authentic energy rooted in wholeness, intuition, receptivity, creativity and the integration of strength and vulnerability.

The divine feminine heals by cultivating self-acceptance and sovereignty, setting healthy boundaries, honouring feelings and limits, and refusing patterns of emotional manipulation or self-neglect.

Practices that awaken intuition, sensuality, and spiritual connection, often through ritual, movement, creativity, and deep listening, are helpful, as is valuing balance. The divine feminine works in harmony with the divine masculine, integrating nurturing and assertiveness, openness and strength, to enable wholeness.

Ichthus77 · November 25, 2025, 12:28pm

Yeah huh. Us women own it. Deal wit it.

MrAuthoritarian · November 25, 2025, 12:40pm

@Ichthus77

Got to say I am not impressed by Bono at all.

Bob · November 25, 2025, 12:59pm

Is your obtuse behaviour just show or are you like this all the time?

Ichthus77 · November 25, 2025, 1:08pm

Are you impressed by this???

Maybe Bible App is using AI that is spying on me as I read… or it’s just 1 of literally 5 bajillion coinkidinks that happen to me daily.

MrAuthoritarian · November 25, 2025, 1:09pm

@Bob

Well, what I am getting at in this thread is the liberal predisposition politically that always targets and complains about men all the while shielding against any criticisms of women.

Under liberalism especially with radical feminism criticism of women is deemed not allowed politically.

Ichthus77 · November 25, 2025, 1:09pm

I’m not gonna lie. Being an asshole comes quite naturally.

MrAuthoritarian · November 25, 2025, 1:10pm

@Ichthus77

I am Buddhist not Christian.

Ichthus77 · November 25, 2025, 1:11pm

So… impressed, or not impressed?

shrugs shoulders in bizarro world

MrAuthoritarian · November 25, 2025, 1:12pm

@Ichthus77

Not particularly, I don’t really follow the whole Abrahamic thought patterns which is why I have embraced Buddhism along with eastern religious philosophies.

Bob · November 25, 2025, 1:17pm

Well, perhaps men should embrace and integrate an expansive, authentic energy rooted in wholeness, intuition, receptivity, creativity and the integration of strength and vulnerability.

Integration of the feminine heals by cultivating self-acceptance and sovereignty, setting healthy boundaries, honouring feelings and limits, and refusing patterns of emotional manipulation or self-neglect. Embracing intuition, sensuality, and spiritual connection, often through ritual, movement, creativity, and deep listening, is helpful, as is valuing balance.

MrAuthoritarian · November 25, 2025, 1:20pm

@Bob

I will be the first to admit as a man that there is a lot of general problems we men have within society or even in regards to the treatment of women.

What I find interesting is that women collectively seem to have a problem admitting publicly their own problems especially in how they treat an ever increasing disposable segment of working class men in society and where radical feminism under political liberalism shields them all from any criticism. For me this is a double standard that should be exposed.

futureone · November 25, 2025, 4:03pm

@MrAuthoritarian @OP

He is a politician, and all politicians cannot be trusted.

Never trust a politician that wins an election, only trust politicians that cannot win elections (Bernie Sanders or Andrew Yang for instance.)

Politicians will say whatever is popular and gets them votes.

If telling women they don’t have to fuck incels is popular, politicians will say it, even if it doesn’t benefit their party in the long-term.

Anyway, what he could be saying when he says “it is not females job to fix male loneliness”, one interpretation is that he believes in female robots to solve the loneliness crisis.