Trixie, 'plain.....

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I want to do her in the butt, so I don’t know what that makes me. Anyway, that’s not why I’m making this thread. I want you to explain why she is wrong, and why anyone should pay these dumbasses the least amount of attention. It is all bullshit. Old days, we used to just say they were faggots, term seemed to work well, I don’t care about exploring the nebulous roller coaster of this weeks made up genders, they pass on like clothing styles, worn for a while, then quickly forgotten.

One thing if your born with your anatomy all fucked up, society isn’t without compassion… Well maybe, but that’s largely because we are shocked, confused, not certain what to do to unfuck such situations (really, born with three dicks and two vaginas and a hairy ass, fuck… Ummmm, I have no advice to give, we ummmm… Support you? Pride Power for that I guess).

When it appears completely voluntary and made up, it really pisses me off. Not that people want to be considered something they are not… I want to be considered a male heart throb on the level of Brad Pitt, but I don’t walk around insisting everyone recognize me as such, nor offer complex graphs to people, complete with odd bullshit definitions, explaining how I really deserve to have that sort of fucking recognition.

Dude… Fucking… WTF?

How many genders are there really?

Not even one.

Words have gender, not people. Feminists made up the idea of ‘gender’ to describe collections of not-biological traits associated with the sexes. Watching people pretend now that they are an actual thing, and that there aren’t just two but dozens, is just hilarious. It’s like a generation forgot Star Wars was fiction and they’re all trying to use force powers.

I’m pretty sure I’ve fucked a female before. I could tell in advance there was a vag somewhere under all those buckles and layers of dress. I was right.

My new gender is “Designer Chair” because I want hot women to sit on my face.

Genders have been around forever, both in a linguistic and visual capacity. I’m Mr. History, I fucking know.

“female” as it applies to creatures like humans is a sex. Gender is a made up thing.

Not if it is referenced to real people.

See, we had sexual reproduction way the back back, turtles fuck with cock and vag.

They don’t fucking sit around debating this shit. They hatch from eggs, they swim in the sea, and one day, a females gendered turtle gets cocked out in her vagina by a male one. They never stopped off in San Francisco to ask a academic about their gender roles, Charles Darwin wasn’t in the Galapagos teaching the turtles how to fuck properly.

I doubt they are much aware of their own sex, they just really really want to do the opposite sex. At no point did this become nurture before nature, no precedent in primates. There were no cross dressing dinosaurs. Okay, some feathered ones, but…

Honestly… we got this ass backwards. We’ve had gender cases in language forever, we as a species are rather quick to assign genders to buttons and construction equipment, why? I don’t know, English is my primary language, we barely do that- but in classical languages that do, they also gotta explain how a thing with a inherited wrong gender actually is this other gender in reality. Somehow that’s politically incorrect. You can’t be presented with these three Patties, and then after being told what they are, ask “OK… But no really, what are you? Like, what were you actually born as”. It is that built into us, we gotta know when it is in doubt. That don’t ever change, most people can do is confuse and shame people into silence for a generation or two, where we act like it us okay not to know… but we are going to look at each other when nobody is looking, and ask one another non-linguistically through eye squints “Any guess what gender this Patty is?”

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There are no female gendered turtles. There are female sexed turtles. I’m still not seeing anything in what you wrote that suggests how those words mean two different things to you. If you just find it easier to say ‘gender’ in all the cases where a person would ordinarily say ‘sex’, that’s fine. Just be aware that in the case of transsexuals, when they say “My body may be male, but actually my gender is female”, the way they use ‘gender’ in a sentence like that references something that isn’t real. What they mean is “I would rather be a female” or “I have so many classically female behaviors and features that I find it distressing that I’m actually male”.

Center applies to imagery and smell too. Obviously, it is aimed at asserting truth, someone who successfully tricks a person into thinking they are a sex they are not is liable to be killed in a highly justified rage attack- about the worst offence you can offer, massive trespass on trust, not to mention wasted time in pursuing the wrong mate, one who can’t reproduce.

A thing is more than language- one of the reasons I’m not on Faust’ Idiot Brigade trying to convince everyone that the problems of philosophy are reducible to linguistic matters. I won’t exclude language from a considerable chunk of philosophy either though, as well as pre-linguistic precedents from which language evolved out of.

One theory is language evolved out of grooming… We speak to one another in the same ratios that primates groom, and it supposedly occupies the same part of the mind. I suppose it is how you can just sit with someone looking out a window, playing with her hair while watching the rain. Males and females in species almost never groom one another at the same equitable rates, we tend to spoil one sex over another.

But this touches up with paraphilia, kink, situation. How do we identify not just kink, but sexual

Fucking bug ass spider

How do we identify not just a schema for kink (I want “her” to sit on my face, without any her in mind, just traits of herness) with sexual acts we enjoyed and experienced? Memories, fixation on visual, tactile, taste, smell. Memory coding.

A lot of gender is built into this, acceptability isn’t completely mallible, not purely a social construct. We see this a lot in specialty porn, they will focus on trends in aesthetics, but it is always a reference to something that came before, however new it is. Erotica sticks to very old, defined acts, not because we are conservative and lazy in out approach to manufacturing new concepts, but because the eye if the needle for paraphilia to become visually charged is so very, very small in terms of making Visual-to-Ideal connections, and assigning a erotically positive sign to it. A lot if times, the negative isn’t even learned, it results from Uncanny Valley, where we look at a situation of seemingly paralleled manufactured exactness, but something is off.

Trixie didn’t grasp why I still refuse to accept tranny lesbians- I can still tell they are make, and furthermore, even if I failed to detect this, the second I found out I’ve been tricked, deep seated rage would result. If I was in a sexual relation with that con, it would turn out very, very bad for the both of us.

This makes a lot of sense if you accept gender is more than merely a social co strict, but survival traits we’ve evolved to keep us on the straight and narrow. While a lot if the signs are learned, they are always associated and joined with obvious, turtle like visual cues not easily faked. That explains the fashion model phenomena on Tumble or Pintrest, how some girls get massive followings modeling dresses, far, far, far higher than anything Trixie could ever hope for. They are on the one hand manufacturing what it means to be feminine, but on the other, are doing so by flaunting clearly wonderful biological traits that indicate they are so rn to anyone. It doesn’t end here, there are further processes that further confirm or reject a persons gender.

A lot of that is OODA Loop confirmations.

While we can objectively assert there are two sexes, we process it through these networks in order to know it in the moment, and to return back to it. Language is only a aspect, but it neither dominates nor can rewrite the process. We can just tell usually, and oftentimes become indignant or confused in the rewards and punishment processes of the mind in assigning gender when we get it wrong or confused.

We adopted a cat recently (well, not me) and called it Sophie, because the old man called it that because his wife called it that. We brought it to the vet to get it shots, see if it needed fixed, and found out Sophie was a he, was already fixed. We treated Sophie as a girl, but something was always off. After we got him back, we renamed him Joey from Sophie, and that morphed into Jo Jo the Potato. He takes to being a make a bit better, I’m sure the other cats knew this, and were confused when we treated him otherwise.

Now, why do people call tools and animals by the sexes? I’m not sure, but I’m guessing it evolved out of this, was so central to our visual process over millions of years as primates in social groups (babboons are very doubtful to subscribe to your theory), and certainly helped in the domestication and breeding of animals. A lot of archaic languages likely mixed the technical specs of the domestication of animals with the way they handled technology. I can’t say for certain, need to look over early semetic languages, but that is my hunch.

Gender is built into the observation process, it isn’t completely nebulous, has more to do with nature than nurture, and the further evidence of this is female fashion personalities that storm into fame, modeling like everyone else, but much, much better- cause of the obvious reasons. A granny thinks they can just make each part similar, and as a whole becomes a amazing woman, but it completely fails in heterosexual make processing, and females ate just nice enough not to destroy your dreams, as they themselves see it as a construct- but women aren’t designed by nature to be as visually obsessed with processing sexusl characteristics as males are. Hence the paraphilia- a addictive situation of image, shapes, smells, scenerio- highly irrational, but associatable with somewhat pkausable events, it can be learned and increased in terms if desire. That means it is almost certainly real, even if embedded in categorical constructs and aesthetic themes. It is always a several to something else, to something else, to something else. It is built in observer able reality, and we can associate it with sexual rewards, and desire to seek it out. Our bodies treat it as plausable and real. We wouldn’t waste that much psychological machinery on something inherently false and wasteful. In every sexual situation exists 100,000,000 past sexual encounters our ancestors went through.

Now I’m identifying as a Popscicle.

So in a situation like that- you take a girl home for some action, and then SURPRISE the tits are just a stuffed bra and there’s a big dick in ‘her’ panties, what would you say about gender in that equation? I’d say the guy was presenting as one sex, when in fact he was the other sex, and I wouldn’t reference gender and I don’t see what gender contributes to the scenario. How would you add gender to that scenario that would say something meaningful and distinct from sex? Is the falsetto voice, skirt, and mascera an authentic female gender that differs from his sex? As in, would you say you saw his gender, presumed the sex matched the gender, and were mistaken? Does the fact that he was merely trying to fool you instead of actually believing himself to be female have any effect on it?

Some things aren’t! Or they are very little more than language. There are plenty of concepts that were invented just to make other concepts easier to group up and talk about. Gender is one of those, I say.

I fail to see how. If you feel enraged when an apparent female turns out to really be a male, you’re mad that they aren’t the sex you thought they were. If there was this real gender thing that a person can have in addition to their sex, then they should just say “Nono, I really am a female in gender. I never said I was a female in sex!” and you’d have to be like “Oh, my bad”. And in fact, I’m sure there are some SJW beta-males out there who would react in precisely this way (at least outwardly) because this is the consequence of believing gender and sex are two real, distinct things. The whole reason a surprise cock provokes rage instead of just disgust is because the feminine presentation is revealed to be a lie. It’s a lie because the presentation references sex, which is the thing that is real.

There are 7 genders maybe more…

There are only 4 body genders of the human body.
Male, penis
female, vag
herm, penis and vag
and agender. asexual, no genitals

There are 7 genders of the mind…

Reason gender exists is because Humans can divert from their physical bodily constraints. That is precisely what makes them Human.
Transgender cats don’t exist, because well first of all, cats act in a mostly androgenous manner. Transgender baboons don’t exist, because baboons don’t have the cognitive ability to divert or separate themselves from their culture.

But to the bottom of it, gender is different from sex because gender is in the mind and sex is in the body. If I put a female’s brain in a man’s body, it would be a male with a female gender. And let’s say it’s your girlfriend, and you no longer want to sex her because she has a dick and balls. That is because your gender is oppressed by the dick and balls, but gender is impermanent and flexible. Many turn gay or bisexual. For five years, I was repulsed by penis, next 5 years I can’t get off without it in the porn somewhere, true story. Gender is flexible and can change on a daily basis, Its in the brain, brain is a pile of jelly, whereas sex is physical, takes physical force to change.

Sure, a man can act like a woman. But a man can act like a horse, too, and we don’t have a word for ‘the behavior of a horse in the absence of actually being a horse’, which is what gender seems to be. If a man acts like a woman long enough, you say his gender differs from his sex. If a man acts like a horse long enough, we don’t say his [no word for it] differs from his species, and we certainly wouldn’t say his [no word for it] is ‘real’ in some way beyond a set of ideas and preferences in his mind.

Well, that’s basically what I mean when I say gender isn’t real. If all you mean by ‘gender’ is the ideas a person has about themselves, then fine. But people have all sorts of ideas about themselves- there’s some people who have the idea that they are a reincarnated Atlantean warrior, or a dragon, or the only man who deserves to have sex, etc. etc. If you just mean to say gender is like that, then you and I may not disagree so much.

It would be a woman in a man’s body, but it wouldn’t be a transgendered person. Why not? Because that woman in a man’s body would instanly understand (if she was rational) that “I’m essentially a man now as far as other people are concerned, and of course other people are going to treat me like a man and talk to me like a man and call me ‘Sir’”. They wouldn’t lose their fucking minds and insist that they are ‘really a woman’ in some mystical sense that nobody can measure or understand, and if somebody made the ‘mistake’ of calling them ‘sir’, they wouldn’t cry on Tumblr about it as if they are being oppressed. They wouldn’t get so obsessed over the issue that they’d try to slice their dick off with a steak knife.

A transgendered person is somebody who thinks they are the sex that they are not, but they aren’t merely that. They are somebody who thinks this and they are so fucking worked up about it that they are liable to kill themselves at any moment and become frothing-at-the-mouth irrationally emotional if other people refer to them as the gender that they so obviously are. They have far more fucked up shit going on upstairs than a mere mistake about what they are. That’s how you can tell it’s such a serious mental problem.

Welll, in this hypothetical it would be because sex turns on physical appeal, and dicks and balls are not physically appealing to me. I don’t know what you mean by ‘my gender is oppressed by the dick and balls’. That is a nonsense statement to me. Not wanting to have sex with my girlfriend because now she has a dick and balls would be exactly the same as not wanting to have sex with my girlfriend because she has horrible burns over 90% of her body, or because she got her legs cut off in a car accident, or because an evil wizard transformed her into a goat. I don’t need some reference to gender in these other cases- it is simply that she’s not attractive anymore. Now, I’m not exactly a typical person, so correct me if you think I’m wrong about this.

Yeah, this is the reason why I say this stuff isn’t real. If this gender thing (which I still don’t believe in) can change every few years, and you are connecting it so closely with what you find sexually appealing, than this whole “I’m really a man trapped in a woman’s body and if some Swedish surgeon doesn’t graft a dick onto me right now I’m gonna fucking hang myself!” thing is esssentially bullshit. That person is actually just an extremely confused dyke, and whatever mental problems they have (and surely they have some) shouldn’t treated independantly of pretending there is some ‘gender’ thing which is immutable and invisible and differs from their sex.

Thing is though, humans don’t have horse neurnons (except the ancient experiments whom were infused with horse dna.)

All human fetuses begin as female, so dudes can have legit female neurons.
Its why people take a dude seriously when he tries to cut off his balls with hedgecutters, not so seriously when he says he is a black guy trapped in a white guy’s body. Unless he actually has a black grandfather or something, there’s no possibility he has any actual black neurons.

Sometimes it sounds like you’re making gender a physical thing, sometimes it sounds like you’re making it a mental thing. If ‘female gender’ just means ‘neurons with XX chromosomes’, then I have to point out that we have zero evidence that that is actually happening in the brain of a transgender person. A male transgender’s brain has neurons that are XY just like any other male.

Gender is based on hormones, chromosomes are not important here. It’s like a videogame, what you see is the videogame, the XBOX version has different code than the PC version, but the coding language just produces minor differences.
For example, an XY male has boobs and a vag, they werent transsexual, they were over 20 years old before they realized they were male, turned out they were xy, just didn’t have much testosterone in the womb, so they formed as a girl throughout life.

Neurons don’t have hormones in them, make up your fucking mind already. :stuck_out_tongue: I didn’t bring up neurons, you did.

Male transexuals don’t have girl neurons. They also don’t have ovaries producing estrogen. That’s why they get hormone therapy before they transition.

Nueronal nets have degrees of male or female configurations. There are subnets so personalities can have a variety of gendered matrices.

The nueronal nets are hard coded as a female, certain areas of the brain are not as plastic as others, its why you don’t get large swathes of males turning gay just because it would be advantageous to do so. Usually the male recognizes the advantage of being gay, takes 10 years, and becomes slightly bisexual because he is still virgin, never fully turns gay.
Same principle for transsexuals, they see the advantage of pretending to be a man, slightly turn man, but never fully turn man and still deep down transsexual.

Most transsexuals rely on chemical hormones, because they underestimate the mind. Certain transsexual sages can release more female hormones with just their mind, there used to be a boy transsexual on youtube who looked like a girl and had hot C cup boobs, it was very arousing, and he said he never took female hormone pills, but his youtube channel got deleted so I can’t send it.

You just said it was about hormones.

You just don’t know, do you? It’s ok to not know.

Anyway, there’s no evidence that there’s anything biological going on that makes a tranny a tranny, other than in the very loose ‘mental behavior is brain behavior’ sense.

I do know what’s going on, you didn’t even respond to my more complex post yet.

Nueronal nets become gendered at an early age, some matrices are less plastic than others, but chemical washing waves over the nets and genders them. Hippocampus is the source of sexuality, its hardcoded, a straight male will never become fully or permanently gay, its actually impossible, just like a transsexual male will never become fully or permanently cis, it’s impossible. With large washing of hormones, you can turn a straight male to be physcial aroused at other males, but the hippocampus will never change, they will always appreciate the female form even if they get physically aroused by dick in their butt.