Trumpaloid

From what I gather, your issue with the election is that you’re concerned about some shit going down or not going down relating to foreign policy and throwing the US into a bunch of wars and what not. That seems like a valid concern.

But besides that…what is it about Trump that appeals to you? The other day I think I boiled it down, for me, as being that he didn’t seem to have any manners. You said maybe he does because he makes deals with Chinese businessmen. I get it. You have to know how to behave as part of being savvy in business. But, even then, if we concede that he knows how to behave, how do we explain the things about his public persona that would indicate terrible manners? Why would he advocate for himself while displaying so many characteristics that people are just generally offended by? Don’t take me as meaning that Clinton is a good choice. For the first time ever, I’ve decided that I have to abstain from voting because I can’t stomach casting a vote for either one of them.

I think Clinton is lying and saying that she wants to help the poor, and I think Trump is telling the truth that he doesn’t want to help the poor.

On a semi-related note…I had a person who supports Trump scream at me the other day that “Hillary is pro-rape!”, because I asked how someone could be both savvy and ethical while using “what’s the law” instead of “what’s right and wrong” as the standard for their determination of what they ought give back to society.

I mean, if I were a billionaire, I would probably elect to do more charitable things than I think Trump or Clinton would, but more so Trump. He’s proud of his greed. That’s just tacky. Tacky is a deal breaker. It’s like iambiguous…it isn’t that I don’t want to engage him out of fear of entanglement in his little rabbit hole that he’s stuck in. It’s that he’s a snarky asshole when he copies and pastes that lazy, easy-to-solve puzzle that he can’t seem to crack.

What if you met some Syrian refugees and the woman was all oppressed but wanted to sneak out and drink alcohol and smoke cigarettes without her head gear on…then Trump got elected and she got shipped off to Mexico and sold into slavery because they had to build the wall and that was the only way they could pay for it.

A businessman would do that shit because it would be the most cost efficient way. A humanitarian would not.

Mr.

2 posts up is the most you’ve typed in what 4 years? All opinionated and shit. :mrgreen:

1 post up :laughing:

Glad to read this.
I think Trump plays a weird game, and Im honesrly pretty much convinced well have a big war if Clinton is elected.

Beyond that, I have learned to trust no premonitions - I dont know what either will to domestically.
Outside, war is just evidently on the horizon now. I mean escalation of post cold war tensions into battle between superpowers.

Dont let it escape your attention please that the strategies Clinton backs are (according to me, and Ive been to these places) fully responsible for this exodus out of Iraq and Syria. I truly absolutely reject the party dualism - in US foreign affairs it does not exist.

I think Trump may represent a break with the system - somewhat… enough to downscale mobilizations against enemies capable and willing … and who stand in their right and self-defense at their own borders.

But a fascist would. Do the sort of thing you mean - treat humans inhumanly.

Glad to see revealed your concerns are humanitarian. I knew this, but people dont.

Clinton is a criminal lawyer specialized in letting sinister crimes by rich people against poor people and children go unpunished - it is her professional savvy - but does it not reflect the tiniest bit on her character – or the causes and people that come naturally to her to fight for?

Relevance?

You.

The dynamic behind the circus is the dominos stacked up of strategic alliances, their stability in a very quickly changing world. The theatrics are really funny and entertaining, Trump wins hand down in presenting a comedy of errors type of old type, worn out pyrotechniques of modern versions of The Prince.

But this is the New World, a brave one at that,nowhere virtual reality is encompassed in this case by reality shows. Shows what? Fractured flickers, that’s what.

But what exactly is fractured? The new New Brave new world is really scary, because no one seems to know what the he heck is going on. One thing though, it was Capital which the crux of all the political, economic and strategic goings on which layer the groundworks of what will eventually become this: the future of mankind, mired in this seeming nonsense.

The status quo would collapse, if the global ideology continued it’s flutter, irresolutely continuing to blow up by little deluded politicians, heading relatively insignificant nations, anxciously wagging their nuke toys to impress The Club. They are only like 75 years late, and by the time they become operational, the defenses against them will bankrupt them, if not their treasury, certainly their ego.

So the beat goes on.

I think criminal lawyers are the last person between a citizen and the power of the state to kill or incarcerate said citizen and therefore serve an important role. Hell, I’ve got 3 of them working for me right now. People are innocent until proven guilty in the US, and so if she, “got someone off the hook” then what you mean to say is that they were “not guilty”. People who follow mobs don’t agree with that, but it’s the law.

The trumpaloid crowds are very much developing along the lines of identity seekers, and this very much in form to Lamb’s perceptions of the formula- identity=values=power; where identification of where powers emerge from relate to their net power structure in terms of their effective way their self induces their level of political sene. Makes sense in times of perception of diminishing political power of the USA, in times of general power shifts VI’s a VI’s the world stage, and how such abstract change relates to the average Joe on Main Street.

This is what all cult like political machines operate, and they need to identify you as a viable candidate for recruitment. They have you identified first, very simply by typing your sensitivity, nay, super sensitivity toward any changes in psycholopolitical insecurity, generally, as relating the feeling you have about yourself, toward the larger domain of simply citizen world.

For most people change entails a deepening of the parameters of definition, and the security-insecurity structure is extremely variable in times like these. The ones on the minima of such representations, with raw and exposed nerves, will rove the field for similarly exposed, or even overexposed minimally reduced reality assessments of their changing associatively defined sensed concepts of how they fit in to the manifested structural hierarchy of the norm.

Hence if one were to string up a linear graph of the powerless to the powerful, the times of the moderates have gone into virtual mode. The extremes are seen unashamedly for who they are, and the most brazen models may serve as the most useful purposes.

Whenever in Lamb’s triad. The power motive takes front and center, it and only it survives crudity, the unwantedness of such exposure generating a force of denial, or rather it is denial which creates a negative force of its own, to initiate particular strengthening of unwavering and immutable associative bonds, heedless of the warnings about power and absolute power.

This careless disregard, in absolute terms highlights the elemental logic’s recurrent force, mostly refunded on Hegel’s terms, not necessarily on Marx’s , however. It is merely the consequence of magically soothing words from a seemingly forceful and accomplished figure, to whom such magic derives to nothing other then a preformed indulgence in the theatrics of hidden capacity for self construction.

The minima, the nihilistic sense of self development and substenance, are magnetically draw into itself the very anti-principles which are eemingky failing, drawing within themselves the ever growing numbers of diseffected.

These, have grown weary of the slowly eroding values which cause the phenomena of gradual lessening of enjoyment of products, where with the producer-productive dicothomy is sensed to ameliate to such a degree, where consumers cannot see themselves as victims of the dicothomy. We are at this sorry state, and this is being externalized and taken advantage of both internally and externally.

Hence, a re-emergence of a new ideological struggle, to prevent social collapse into the nihilistic world of automatic response, and the creation of simulated and socially induced propaganda via the most obvious target, whose message is it’s self, the media’s self absorption into It’s self.The new ideological issue relates to the propaganda and mind control of the Brave New World, however foreseen.

The comedy. Though I have to admit Hillary has her share of hillar-ity as well.