So is holding wealthy hoarders accountable to do their part.
The âdisconnected youthâ movement is growing as more Gen Zers struggle to find purpose at school and work
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Regrettably, my concern with regard the impact of AI on youth was never addressed in this topic.
What is your opinion on the âDisconnected Youthâ movement in light of the emergence of AI?
I just started another topic that reveals the intellectual techno-eugenic foundation of Googleâs leadership (founders, CEO and management circle) and their fundamental and active (strategically) protected idea that the human species is to be rendered sub-par to AI, and that humanity is to be replaced with AI.
This was revealed by Elon Musk who recently published the intellectual origin of his breakup with Google more generally.
The Google founder became angry because Musk argued in defence of humanity. The Google founder said that it was unjust to defend the human species in the face of superior new AI species.
The intellectual disagreement caused a broader breakup with Google as a company, with several Google-Musk related incidents since the Google co-founder related breakup. These subsequent incidents were all fundamentally based on âanger from the perspective of Google towards Muskâ, for example 'stealing an AI employee by Musk, angrily portrayed by Googleâs leadership as âbetrayalâ and cause for anger and retaliation against Musk.
This insight reveals something more profound from the perspective of youth. Youth does not just read such info and judge accordingly, but they feel and experience their position in humanity relative to a future that is to be considered significantly impacted by corporations such as Google and its controlling leadership.
Google has been accused of a âemployee hoarding schemeâ, adding over 100,000 employees in just a few years time shortly before its mass AI layoffs of a similar amount. Employees complained of âfake jobsâ:
From the perspective of HumAnIze these might be considered mere corporate corruption incidents. From the perspective of youth however, they are âgetting the messageâ already, while in their prime development phase and cradle of âpotentialâ, that they are not valued today, and will increasingly less so in the future.
Shouldnât the situation of these children be given due attention by philosophy? Who else than philosophers are able to make a difference when it concerns an intellectual defence of their purpose of existence?
My post was flagged by the community as off-topic.
My post was certainly on-topic and addressed the âDisconnected Youthâ movement in light of the emergence of AI.
How does universal basic income connect up with the topic of disconnected youth and artificial intelligence?
In my opinion, when it concerns the UBI discussion, it ultimately concerns a question of interests. This was my primary argument to HumAnIze in response to his âtrillion dollarâ argument.
The phenomenon that was given the name âDisconnected Youth Movementâ reveals that it ultimately concerns interests related to the Why of existence.
The outlook for youth today is of such a nature, that this âphenomenonâ manifested and received its own name. The cause is evidently related to AI in how it renders humans purposeless for corporations and industry, and thus, renders their income potential as provided for through todays system, obsolete.
The case reveals in my opinion, or rather touches upon, fundamental motives for providing people (youth) with a means for income and purpose.
By systematically providing youth with the ability to sustain themselves, they can be held responsible again for their own success.
This could be an evolutionary advantage, since it could raise the bar instead of âhanding out free cash for no reasonâ. It could help humanity to evolve from struggle to survive to struggle to advance with purpose.
This post is simply on-topic. It touches on the fundamental motive for UBI, and it draws from real world phenomena that are evidently under-addressed in philosophy and thus rendering it vital that it is discussed in this topic.
The Pope has become a prominent advocate for UBI. His advocacy reveals a motivational connection with AI:
Why wait for Lary Pageâs âAI speciesâ or Googleâs Digital Life Forms to render humanity sub-par to AI? We need UBI now to defend ourselves!
So you are saying that universal basic income is necessary because artificial intelligence will reduce the number of available jobs. However, I think if thereâs going to be a universal basic income, a person needs to demonstrate how they are contributing to society with that money. It should not just be a freebie.
And all of my other concerns already stated need to be addressed.
When it concerns UBI, it doesnât just concern giving free money in my opinion. It concerns a means for subsistence, a fundamental foundation for human prosperity.
My primary argument is that UBI might provide an opportunity to raise the bar for human advancement, rather than âhanding out free money for no reasonâ, as I explained in my post related to the âDisconnected Youth Movementâ
The Disconnected Youth Movement phenomenon reveals that young people face grave difficulties to find purpose and meaning in work and study. This is something profound and is simply directly caused by AI in my opinion. Not just AI from the perspective of the elderly, but the 20-30 year logical future of AI from the perspective of young people, the future in which they are to live their youthful and prime âmeaningfulâ life.
While you grew up in school, you may have experienced the disruption by the first calculators. Children attending school today face a technology that potentially renders their learning fundamentally purposeless.
Forcing children to do things by old standards might only worsen the situation.
Instead, the UBI could provide a foundation for subsistence to them so that these children can be provided with a level of autonomy and responsibility to secure success in life. An UBI could enable them to advance âintellectuallyâ so that they may diverge from the old paths, and advance in ways that benefit the âhuman specieâ on the longer term in ways that their parents might never begin to understand.
So my argument is that UBI could potentially raise the bar and enable humanity to advance in new ways (intellectual ways), rather than falter and âtake out free money for no reasonâ.
Thatâs fricken hilarious, sonny.
How is this financial autonomy going to reconnect youth?
No allowance without chores or you are going to raise a generation of brats.
This allowance should be something you can take away if they demonstrate brat behavior.
It should be considered a privilege one needs to maintain, not a right.
No matter the age.
This should also apply to Social Security, which it should replace.
Assuming all of my previous concerns have been addressed, of course.
Means to an end. UBI is about providing a means, that in turn, can culturally impose a sense of responsibility aligned with interests that are potentially higher and more profound that those of the past. That is what would âreconnectâ the youth: a higher purpose, unique to them.
With autonomy, I didnât refer to anything financial, but rather the autonomy of youth to be responsible for a purposeful and meaningful life. The self-control to align ones life for a higher purpose and âsuccessâ.
Questions like âwhat defines success?â would be applicable. This question might not be answer-able with ideas of the past, and might require completely new frameworks of thinking that might be uniquely possible in youthful generations.
More simply: in the old world, work or âparticipation in corporate and industrial lifeâ gave peolpe an opportunity for subsistence and purpose, in a system that aligned that incentive with industrial, scientific and technological progress.
To raise the bar, the situation created by AI might provide humanity with unique new opportunities to advance in other dimensions that were increasingly neglected by past âstruggle to surviveâ type of generations, such as moral and intellectual dimensions, some of whom are unique to the human specie.
With the intellectual capacity to give moral notice, and to morally improve, this moral advancement scope can be found to be infinite of potential. Some may say that love is infinite. Equally so, the moral dimension is infinite in my opinion.
By providing youth with a basic security of subsistence, they can culturally align themselves with (be responsible for) higher interests in the scope of moral-intellectual advancement. This may simply occur naturally through culture.
Can you please provide a short list of the questions that you consider pending?
In a world where almost everything is automated, what would satisfy you as a worthy contribution?
In a future world where the physical and intellectual tasks are handled by ai, thereâs apparently fewer avenues to contribute.
I donât think your idea is a bad one at all, in fact Iâve thought similar myself, Iâm just curious what counts as a worthy contribution to you.
Kids donât need demonstrate how theyâre contributing to deserve food or shelter or clothing (let alone any inheritance they might have coming).
Adults are given citizenship, rights, a say in democratic governance, access to public services, etc., without having to earn them.
Why not a UBI?
Food, clothing & shelter are essentials. Adults work jobs to afford themâthieves hike their prices.
Inheritance? Ask @promethean75 how default inheritance is.
No allowance without chores. Period.
You took the I out of UBI?
Helping people who canât help themselves. Beautifying. Making the wheel better. That sort of thing.
Fair enough, similar thoughts to my own in that regard.
Would those people who canât help themselves also have to prove some contribution to get their ubi?
The demand for political alignment should be excluded from UBI in my opinion. Political alignment should be demanded or enforced through other means and the security of basic subsistance should be considered a fundamental right such as the access to clean drinking water.
What âbasic subsistenceâ means may vary by country. Switzerland proposes to give its residents 3,000 euro per month per person + 800 euro per month per child, for example. This allows governments to compete in a context that fosters political manifestation aligned with human prosperity.
The primary interest, in my opinion, is that the âDisconnected Youthâ can connect again with a purpose that reaches far beyond those of past generations.
What is the opportunity of youth looking into their 30-40 year future?
In light of Larry Pageâs claim that âAI speciesâ are to replace the human species, because Googleâs Digital Life Forms are superior to humans, youth might have the unique opportunity to defend the human species.
By giving them a basic security of subsistence, they can be held responsible for figuring it out. For securing their future. For aligning their life with a higher purpose, not just for themselves, but for the human species.
Yes. Bare minimum they should show they are trying to get to a point where they donât need help, or sharing what they donât need help with, which someone may need to show them, if they canât even conceive of it. UBI will increase learned helplessness otherwise. This includes retired folk. They have a lot to contribute with their many years of living experience.
Also, if AI can pass human competency tests, but are not treated as persons, thatâs going to backfire.