Universal Consensus Argument for the Existence of God

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Although an oversimplification in many ways, the number three is the first common denominator and birthmark of some very fundamental categories of reality, for example:

  1. Space, i.e., length, breadth, and height or depth;
  2. Time, i.e., past, present, and future;
  3. Matter, i.e., solid, liquid, and gas;
  4. Electro-magnetism, i.e., positive, negative, and neutral;
  5. Atomic structure, i.e., protons, electrons, and neutrons;
  6. The relationship between force, mass, and acceleration, i.e., F = ma;
  7. The relationship between energy, matter, and light, i.e., E = MC2;
    :sunglasses: The relationship of the elements of the Pythagorean triangle i.e., Z2 = X2 + Y2.

In addition, the psychology of the human soul is understood in three essential aspects of being, i.e., personality or ego self-consciousness, mind or id – conscious and unconscious, and spirit or superego – unconscious even superconscious.

Furthermore, the theology or divine formula of the nature of One God may be expressed in three abstract coordinates, i.e., the Trinity Absolute, which may be defined as the existential Deity Absolute Prime Creator (Benefactor), his experiential Universe Absolute Supreme Being (Almighty Allsoul), and their ultimate absonite Unconditioned Absolute Spirit of All That Is (Source/Synthesis). This is also defined in the Christian interpretation as the Holy Trinity of three persons – Father, Son, and Holy Ghost, as well as in the Hindu Trimurti of Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva.

Supporting this formulation, the psychology of human religious predilections is apparent in three major views or cultural attitudes to the Absolute, i.e., Muslims and Jews may be said to worship the first person of the Trinity – the Deity Absolute; Christians and Vishnuvite Hindus tend to worship the first person through the second person – the Universe Absolute – Christ or Krishna; while Shaivite Hindus and some Buddhists and Confucian-Taoists tend to venerate the first and second persons through the third person – the Spirit of the Destiny Consummator, Unconditioned Absolute, Tao of All That Is.

If, as it seems, it may be sufficiently demonstrated that the multidimensional nature of One God in Trinity manifestation is reflected in the religious pluralism of the world, and human psychology, as well as the metaphysics of space, time, matter, energy, force, atomic structure, etc; then and therefore, the existence of that God must be regarded as systematically self-evident. This proof anticipates the eventuation of a Universal Consensus of religion and science.

Samuel Stuart Maynes
religiouspluralism.ca

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There is a specific reason why those sets of three so commonly appear, but they are not totally universal. The Buddhists don’t get into the whole “3” thing very well at all. Secularism seems to think in terms of two; Us and Them. And although I can explain why those sets appear, I think that I am missing your point somewhere.

Are you proposing that if everyone agreed upon the universality of 3, they would stop arguing? Not likely. They are arguing only over who gets to dictate to the rest of the world and thus must constantly proclaim the foolishness of the others. They aren’t really interested in consensus unless they are on top.

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It is very unlikely that four Stooges would have been successful as three were.

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In a world of global domination, there can be only one.

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Ja!

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It’s ironic that out of all scientific fields to support your religious views you bring out psychology. Psychology explains religion as a product of human cognitive biases, will to control, desperate need for answers etc.

The rest is just an argument from ignorance. Just because we don’t know the answers to some fundamental questions yet doesn’t mean the default answer is “goddidit”.

And reaching a consensus on it doesn’t magically make god exist either.

Ah, another infallible argument in favor of religion. Sad thing is, arguments of this quality (which I assume you intended as a joke) are presented seriously from the religious side constantly. Well, it’s also kind of funny too :laughing:

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yes, it was a joke with a purpose.

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According to Paul MacLean of NIMH, our brains have evolved into three “brains”. First is the brain base or reptilian brain. After that evolved the mammalian brain. Then came the “human” neocortex. MacLean believes all three brains remain operative. In psychology they amount to id ego and superego. That we can see things as trinite may say more about our brains than it does about external reality. See Carl Sagan’s “The Dragons of Eden”.

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Recent theories suggest that the basic building blocks of matter are particles called quarks. Both protons and neutrons are apparently composed of triplets of these quarks, which themselves come in three pairs. One of the unsolved mysteries of modern particle physics is why every fundamental particle encountered to date can be grouped in three families. Atomic theory seems to point toward the triune nature of metaphysics stamped as a birthmark on matter.

One way of overcoming the dichotomy or contradiction between quantum theory and general relativity is presented in “String Theory” which attempts to reconcile the wave-particle dichotomy in a grand universal theory. Noting that strings can form loops, which imply holes, string-theorists suggest that the particular configuration of strings which would provide a fundamental “theory of everything” may turn out to have only three basic “holes.”

 “After all, experimentalists can establish – in fact already have established – the number of particle families: [b]3 (three).[/b] Unfortunately, the number of holes… (string) shapes spans a wide range… no one knows how to deduce from the equations of string theory which of the shapes constitutes the extra spatial dimensions. If the particular (first adequate and only necessary) shape singled out by the equations of the theory were to have [b]three[/b] holes, we would have found an impressive ‘post-diction’ from the string theory, explaining a known feature of the world that is otherwise completely mysterious.” The Elegant Universe – B. Greene, P.217.

Nearly every physicist agrees that “time” is a key obstacle to finding an ultimate theory. In their quest for a deeper understanding of the universe, many physicists increasingly suspect that time is not a fundamental feature of nature, but rather an artifact of our perception, as some philosophers (notably Immanuel Kant) have argued.

“For us believing physicists, the distinction between past, present, and future is only an illusion, even if a stubborn one.” Albert Einstein – Michele Besso Correspondence 1903-1955 (Paris; Harmann, 1972), P.537/8.

One view is that God must be absolutely self-existent and past-eternal, for if there was a “time” when absolutely nothing existed, then nothing would exist now. Another view is that God is self-caused, springing up from the beginning of “time,” in spontaneous generation, and evolving toward some sort of Supreme Being of universal consciousness existing in potential from the beginning. A third view is that God is both absolute and supreme, eventuating in an Unconditioned Being of all Beings – an ultimate balanced consummation of source and destiny, closing the circle of “time” and creation in and out of nothing.

Samuel Stuart Maynes
religiouspluralism.ca

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I suggest that you leave out the attempt at physics portion of that. But I still don’t see your point.

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Adam, Eve and Serpent, tree of the knowledge of good and evil. The myth persists because it says something about the evolution of consciousness, the “fall” into introspective mind, from which one can realize good, evil and death of the Self. The trinite human psyche can also be known as mind, body and spirit (or soul, if you will).

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duplicate post

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Daddy, what is god? God is the imaginary friend that adults believe in.

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We see through the lenses of our structure. If our psyches are trinite, our explanations of most phenomena will have three aspects, such as the three states of matter.