V for Vendetta

V for Vendetta.

The movie capitalized on a variety of current paranoias to sell it’s message that the people are being suppressed, and so forth.

The setting is several decades or more in the future where things are much the same as they are today, technologically speaking. It’s a world where the USA is in some kind of civil war and Britain is in a 1984-like condition of censorship and surveillance (oddly John Hurt plays the leader of the government, but also played the protagonist in the film version of 1984). This condition has sprung forth from some massive biological attack that occurred on the isles and inspired a very conservative turn of government to control the chaos.

The story about the plague is directly taken from the first Aeon Flux cartoon, was used in Ultraviolet, but weirdly was not used in the recent Aeon Flux movie. The Aeon Flux cartoon showed the story, without the use of words, of a scientist making a disease to become popular and assume control by then distributing the cure. Great idea! Again this idea was used in V, but has become tired.

Also, the movie suggested that every single bad thing of any import that happened in England, right down to bird flu, was the result of government manipulation. When the government isn’t doing that they’re rounding up homosexuals, banning art, and trying to eradicate “the beautiful poetry of the koran” from our minds. This appeals to what I consider to be massive cowardice on the part of some segment of our culture. If the government has manufactured everything, then it is controllable and understandable. It’s like your nasty schoolmate pulling a prank on you. That helps to fight off the confusion and horror that a disease caught from a bird might kill everyone you know, or that a bunch of stinky foreigners want to blow you up and rape your girlfriend because god told them to.

Anyway, as a result of some very poorly described government experiment, a person that has been badly burned decides to take on the guise of Guy Fawkes (code name V) a man that tried to blow up parliament, due to reasons having little to do with the film, appears as the hero. He’s played by Hugo Weaving (Agent Smith from the Matrix) and despite the fact that he wears a kind of theater mask throughout the whole film, does a great job. I attribute this to the perpetually pleasant voice that he maintains and his twisty and elegant dialogue. V has a kind of crazy smartness that you never see in American characters (yet another reason to move to England). He would have been a great character with had their been a different fight on his hands.

There was one character other than V that set the whole tone of why I didn’t care for the movie too much. He’s a closet good-guy (amongst other things) and a big time TV star. While helping Natalie Portman he relieves his secret room where he keeps all of his contraband. In this reality, contraband is mostly the art object , but in this man’s chamber we find more. He’s got a copy of the koran! As mentioned above, he remarks about it’s beautiful poetry and I found it amusing that it was clearly written in Arabic, and that meant to me that like most people that praise the fascist work he had probably never read it. Then, the camera does a quick scan across some creepy gay sado-looking photos that the guy keeps on the wall. He then admits to Portman that he likes guys and that is the motivation for his revolutionary leanings. I guess that he forgot that the muslims would try to kill him if they were in charge too. Oh well, he’s a man living in confusing times.

So, the whole movie is about having a revolution about government conspiracies, homosexuality, and the koran. There’s an old song that states “the revolution will not be televised” and if the same goes for this one then I’m afraid I’ll have to miss it.

Getting away from the movie for a minute, I would like to know why liberals seemed to have abandoned the idea of revolutions over economic conditions. The average American is going to rack up over 50,000 in debt that they will never pay off in their lifetime and that amounts to them being an owned slave. How does that as an issue compare to the defense of a bizarre foreign religion, blaming every miserable event on the government, and maintaining top priority for the sexually anomalous?

Friends, I suggest to you that the very people that permit books to be published and have the money to make films are the same people that make you slaves by playing the debt game with you. They want you to stick up for the infantile exploration of genitalia related issues, while they overtly and covertly own you and your entire family from now until…when?

So, go and rent fight club if you want a little truth in an action/fantasy movie.

About Guy Fawkes:
bonefire.org/guy/gunpowder.php

AD, thanks for the review. I shall keep it in mind when I finally
get to the film, hopefully in a week or two.

Kropotkin

Sure, I have to laugh, I just read some of the reviews on RottenTomatos and the negative ones were very very close to mine.

It seems that the comic was a little better with less of the internet political philosophy.

What I loved about the movie, was how it was portrayed, the power of word, and how much of an effect they can have. Also, I just loved the line, “Beneath this mask there is more than flesh. There is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof,” I loved this, because it shows that what’s important, isn’t the person, it’s the idea that lives on.

I thought the movie was great, the acting was great, the writing was excelent, and Hugo Weaving was awesome as V. I loved that character’s dialogue, intelligent, and creep at the same time.

Now I’ve never seen, Aeon Flux, the cartoon, or the movie, so I was fine with all the disease business. As for Ultraviolet, this idea could have been done a whole lot better, and I think V for Vendetta did just that (in my opinion).

I enjoyed that movie, it was good for me.

V for Vendetta pre-dates both Ultraviolet and Aeon Flux. If anything they stole from V.

Yes, but does the comic contain that disease idea?

From what I gather the screenplay is entirely different from the comic.

… I’ll get back to you on that.

I wanted to read it today, but the bookstore I went to didn’t have it.

On a side note I can recomend the following graphic novels…
The Walking Dead
The Book of Magic
and
Sandman

Also I was really digging on the bit of Ishmael I was able to read.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_for_Vendetta

I just read about the comic and it doesn’t appear that the Aeon Flux plot was part of it.

Speaking of lifting ideas, doesn’t this guy look familliar?

Is that older than Harry Potter?

Yep. Neil Gaiman wrote the first “Books of Magic” graphic novel in 93. I don’t believe Potter hit England until late 1997.

The character in Books of Magic is named Tim Hunter and he starts of a 12 year old who discovers that he’s a magician. He also has an owl named Yo-Yo.

On another cool little note one of Tim’s mentors is none other than John Constantine, the same one who had his own movie just last year.

And Fables, that pretty kick ass.

Wow, I know that you were talking about Harry Potter and you didn’t even have to say anything.

Screw the film then, if they’ve bastardized it. Read Alan Moore’s original. A not quite MAD nuclear war is the precursor to the rise of fascism in the comicbook.

Hah - I’d forgotten Tim Hunter - and you’re right - does look awfully Harry Potterish.

Now - anyone know if MiracleMan has been collected and re-printed recently…? It’s one I’m trying (vainly) to find.

I checked it out. It looks like Miracleman is still out of print.

I think that the change in the script from a nuclear war to a disease is that people are more afraid of super-diseases than nuclear war at this point in history. Genetic manipulation is the newest technology and the fear is its use as a weapon, hense a super-virus.

V for Vendetta played off of the fear of nuclear war in the early 80’s. The movie simply used what people fear today.

It doesn’t really change the heart of the story. Which when boiled down to its most basic elements V for Vendetta is an updated version of Beauty and the Beast.

Sure it is.

I’m glad you agree.

::Spoilers ahead:: Just highlight the text to read it better.

Look at it. V was a man who is turned into a monster by government experimentation, much like a curse. Evey is a girl who, due to circumstance finds herself within the lair of the beast and is unable to leave said lair. Eventually she escapes and, like in the archetypal female hero has to go through the underworld (in this case torture in a government prison that V invented.) Afterwards she brings out a shred of humanity in V before he dies, breaking the spell.

Its Beauty and the Beast.

Thanks for checking Manifested, it’s something to do with a conflict over who actually owns the rights to the character of MM I think.

  • I disagree, quite strongly, about the beauty and the beast bit actually, to me it is a story about the implicit lack of trust a state-system has in its populace, especially during times of crisis, the short-sightedness of people in general, who will sell their souls rather than take responsibility for themselves, and a rather romantic notion of a utopian anarchy being the ‘highest’ form of society.

It’s also reflects my views on how to ‘achieve’ free-will pretty closely, and the reasons correspondingly, why so few people really have it.

It’s the reverse really - beauty becomes the beast, because sometimes it is necessary for beauty to wear a feasome aspect in order to instill itself in others.

The parallels are pretty obvious when one looks at V from the stand point of a archetypal hero’s journey Joseph Campbell sort of stance.

Mistrust within the government and all that is the theme of the story. That doesn’t mean its not beauty and the beast. Its pretty clearn when one considers that its not V’s story, but Evey’s.

Evey is innocent when she is rescued by V, he engineers a removal of her illusions, frees her from the ‘cage’ of her bodily needs and inhibitors, and she, in turn, becomes him.

More “Innocence” meets “Mr. I may be a sociopath - but I’m right.”