# We are social beings, morality is necessary.
**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/we-are-social-beings-morality-is-necessary/20666
**Category:** Philosophy
**Created:** [April 3, 2008, 6:33pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/we-are-social-beings-morality-is-necessary/20666 "2008-04-03T18:33:17Z")
**Posts on this page:** 7
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### Author:  [@Aidan\_Mclaren](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Aidan_Mclaren)
#### Post date: [April 8, 2008, 3:37pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/we-are-social-beings-morality-is-necessary/20666/21 "2008-04-08T15:37:55Z")
Does it matter, Cyrene?
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### Author:  [@Joker](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Joker)
#### Post date: [April 9, 2008, 7:08pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/we-are-social-beings-morality-is-necessary/20666/22 "2008-04-09T19:08:25Z")
> [@Aidan\_Mclaren](#):
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> Does it matter, Cyrene?
Nope…
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### Author:  [@SouthpawLink](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/SouthpawLink)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2008, 2:53am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/we-are-social-beings-morality-is-necessary/20666/23 "2008-04-11T02:53:32Z")
Joker,
It seems that you are passing judgment on people who are selfish (and who desire domination), and thus you are arguing from a belief in right and wrong (which you so often seem to reject). Yes, it’s true that everyone wants something, but is there anything inherently wrong with that? 
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### Author:  [@Blacklung](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Blacklung)
#### Post date: [April 11, 2008, 7:14am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/we-are-social-beings-morality-is-necessary/20666/24 "2008-04-11T07:14:48Z")
> [@Joker](#):
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> > [@Aidan\_Mclaren](#):
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> > Does it matter, Cyrene?
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> Nope…
What a cop out. Cynicism beyond reason.
Cyrene’s right on the money. Ingrained behaviors that most consider “moral” are evolution-based and not merely byproducts of society.(which, regrettably, is often a pejorative term here) It’s no wonder that certain neurological abnormalities are linked with violent/criminal behavior.
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### Author:  [@Joker](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Joker)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2008, 10:07pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/we-are-social-beings-morality-is-necessary/20666/25 "2008-04-13T22:07:19Z")
> [@Blacklung](#):
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> > [@Joker](#):
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> > > [@Aidan\_Mclaren](#):
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> > > Does it matter, Cyrene?
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> > Nope…
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> What a cop out. Cynicism beyond reason.
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> Cyrene’s right on the money. Ingrained behaviors that most consider “moral” are evolution-based and not merely byproducts of society.(which, regrettably, is often a pejorative term here) It’s no wonder that certain neurological abnormalities are linked with violent/criminal behavior.
Oh please…
These so call abnormalities that clinical psychologists, sociologists, and political neurologists speak of are merely masks of society’s collective prejudice covered semantically in the name of science.
If we accept that man is a predatory creature in a evolutional sense naturally we must then conclude that his predatory acts against others of his own species is equally natural.
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### Author:  [@Joker](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Joker)
#### Post date: [April 13, 2008, 10:10pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/we-are-social-beings-morality-is-necessary/20666/26 "2008-04-13T22:10:34Z")
> [@SouthpawLink](#):
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> Joker,
> It seems that you are passing judgment on people who are selfish (and who desire domination), and thus you are arguing from a belief in right and wrong (which you so often seem to reject). Yes, it’s true that everyone wants something, but is there anything inherently wrong with that? 
Don’t confuse satire and mockery with judgement.
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### Author:  [@Cyrene](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Cyrene)
#### Post date: [April 17, 2008, 11:26am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/we-are-social-beings-morality-is-necessary/20666/27 "2008-04-17T11:26:55Z")
> [@](#):
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> Oh please…
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> These so call abnormalities that clinical psychologists, sociologists, and political neurologists speak of are merely masks of society’s collective prejudice covered semantically in the name of science.
no one is talking about psychologists or sociologists, what we’re talking about is scientists working in the field of neurobiology finding out that people with malfunctioning prefrontal cortex (or other brain areas) results in perople who can’t control their agression, thought processes nearly as well, so on and so forth.
No one is saying that’s the case with all human murders though.
> [@](#):
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> If we accept that man is a predatory creature in a evolutional sense naturally we must then conclude that his predatory acts against others of his own species is equally natural.
man is adapted to living in groups to be predatory against _OTHER_ human groups. I’d love for you to research ANY of the modern hunter-gatherer or tribal studies, even just one.
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