we have one life…why do we delude ourselves…the only reason is knowing that we are going to die… and that is not a good survival thought…
Knowing you are going to die. I mean REALLY knowing it is very liberating.
The above assertions and claims of absolute knowledge sound suspiciously like religious dogma. And like all who spout such beliefs as facts, I simply say to them, prove it.
no no maia-----not dogma at all…I just have a belief that there is nothing after death…don’t you have beliefs…do you call your beliefs dogmas…
A belief can easily be mistaken, by others, for a dogma, if it presented as if it were true.
maia–why does my belief bother you…
Are you talking to ME?
When you loose Faith you gain so much more than you ever thought possible.
Knowing you are going to die and rejecting dogma are both massively liberating
hc–you may have something there…please say more…it may be helpful…
It doesn’t. What bothers me is when beliefs become dogma.
did you think I came on too strong…
I’ve lived my life without faith for a very long time. it’s the best thing I ever did, like loosing the life-saver in the swimming pool, letting go of the edge and taking a swim.
It’s like letting go of mummy’s apron strings and running out into the garden to find out what the world has to offer.
Faith is like a crutch, that when you throw away you realise that you always had the ability to run.
Crutch or not, life-saver or not, apron strings or not, the end is the same: you die, we all die. Some people die tied to mummy, wearing a rubber ring round their waste, and carrying a crutch. Others die having gone somewhere, done something without carrying the weight of religious tradition on their backs.
Travel light, go further.
yes hc----but do you like the idea of becoming extinct…and I must reassure you that I have no delusions about god…or h/h
I suppose the key point is that I know it does not matter one way or the other whether or not I “like it”: love it or hate it, I can’t change it.
aren’t you afraid sometimes…
Sometimes I ask myself, is was just as good as isn’t?
Or is was better than never was?
Sure.
Hobbes Choice…
But you can LIVE it. That’s the beauty and the wisdom behind knowing that there may not be a tomorrow (whether there is or isn’t Something [doesn’t imply eternity])…there may not be an eternal tomorrow for us. That thought IS capable of lighting a creative fire under you.
Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater. It may be your only baby.
Hobbes Choice…
But you can LIVE it. That’s the beauty and the wisdom behind knowing that there may not be a tomorrow (whether there is or isn’t Something [doesn’t imply eternity])…there may not be an eternal tomorrow for us. That thought IS capable of lighting a creative fire under you.
Let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater. It may be your only baby.