I said it could lead to an increase in crime although welfare is not actually given as a bribe to deter potential criminals. This is not its function
Whatever programs you are referring to they are not a substitute for an actual job. But anyone who is long term unemployed should be making
productive use of their time. I do and I see zero reason why no one else can. Though I am in a privileged position and so it is easy for me to say
Look, the basic mathematics are this.
If there aren’t enough jobs for people, then people don’t have money. So they have two options =
homeless or criminals.
This talk about “natural-selection” seems a bit like Nazi Germany.
Did you know there are a lot of homeless highIQ and stupid CEO’s. Removing the homeless and keeping the CEOs will give you war and blight, not utopia.
could?
A touch more concrete than ‘could’ wouldn’t you say? And if you are sticking to your ‘could’, then how is the original argument for reduction of welfare fallacious? Based on a “could”?
Privileged position? You didn’t work to get where you are? Your parents didn’t work to get where they were to provide for you? It was all just handed to you? This is the same argument as ‘privileged/lucky to be born XXXX’. It completely ignores the fact that down through the generations people lived, fought, worked and died to perpetuate the species. You wouldn’t be surreptitious57 if your parents weren’t who they were, and they wouldn’t be them if their parents weren’t who they were and so on and so forth. There is only one surreptitious57. If history didn’t go down exactly like it did, you wouldn’t be you, and it’s impossible for you to be someone else. If you were someone else you wouldn’t be surreptitious57.
I’d like one day to hear the argument for a giant slot machine in the sky.
LOL Nazis. You just lost the argument.
Why should anyone be forced to support anyone else? I’m not talking what is virtuous, or ‘lesser beings’ (trotted out in another of your threads), or what is compassionate. Why should anyone be FORCED? How is this different than your bullshit Nazi comparison? You haven’t actually answered any of my questions, and then you just shout Nazi. This is ILP, right?
you call me “crazy” but again you show that globalism has corrupted so many minds, enforcing generosity is cause of all the evils, coercion is by definition evil.
Here a few examples, but I could post a dozen more shattering your argument. but now it also becomes clear that you do not understand inflation at all. Like millions of voters.
Ebt for what? buying heavily processed and gmo foods causing cancer, diabetes, etc… and keep afloat corporations that are too big to fail and always pay little if no taxes because they fund whatever party, while they are the black holes of the economy (cannot repay the debts contracted to take over the world) They are the ones on welfare, this is all a GIANT welfare pyramid financed by taxpayers.
Death by welfare and interest rates cut that is.
Big Business Gets Big Subsidies From Washington (2015)
thenewamerican.com/usnews/co … washington
Student loan for what: student debt will cripple the American dream, 7 million students REFUSE to pay their loans, which will be shifted onto the taxpayers at some point.
medicaid/medicare programs are trillionsss into debts … Dallas Federal Reserve President: US Unfunded Liabilities of over $100 Trillion rapidtrends.com/2010/02/12/d … -trillion/
welfare is all good, pay your taxes and get drawn into WW3. The only flourishing businesses right now are ARM dealers.
Poor have the power to choose? All mind controlled… obesity skyrockets… and with the robots that will take over millions of jobs, yeah welfare has surely a future. Welcome fascistic/communist 1984!
Our $100 Trillion National Debt (real numbers in 2008)
informationclearinghouse.inf … e20463.htm
AS FOR HILLARY, FOLLOWS THE MONEY
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The New York Times hailed the book as “The most anticipated and feared book of a presidential cycle” while MSNBC described the documentary as devastating for the Hillary campaign.
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Par for the course at I Love Paranoia forum.
What about I Love Oligarchy?
Lol says the girl who’s like “You said the word man in a sentence? Sexcust!”… LOL
Why because people are selfish and won’t give to the poor on their own accord.
Don’t worry, I am making a new thread 4 U…stay tuned…
Lol what the fuck is this.
Miss third eye Says EBT is responsible for GMOs and Monsanto. Like what the fuck, how are they related. You could have Monsanto without EBT, and you could have EBT without preservatives and Monsanto.
This girl is cray cray…lol!
Then she’s talking about “students need to pay loans” ignoring the fact that the whole educational system is broken…
Lol you go to college to Get a job so you can pay off the debt of going to college, Total indentured Slavery lol!
These debts are like 100,000 dollars Nobody can ever pay them off rofl xD
It’s like going to the hospital and having to pay half a million dollars for a months treatment…What the friggity fuck lol? Its like a sick sadistic fucking Looney Tunes cartoon…What a JOKE!
Then she makes the connection welfare and world war 3…like wtf lol they have nothing to do with each other xD
you make more connections than Jim Carrey and the number 23 rofl
Right, nobody donates to charity, nobody helps out homeless people at all, there are no private organizations with these goals in mind. What planet do you live on? You just want CONTROL. Who the hell are you to dictate who should give what?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_charitable_foundations
You have still not presented one cogent argument in this thread.
90 percent of the population doesn’t help homeless.
and homeless shelters dont fit all the homeless, otherwise there wouldn’t be homeless, u fuckin loon lol
ur a fuckin ebenzer scrooge LOl
“are there no workhouses?” xD xD
You’ve already lost the thread, Nazis, forced labour and theft (I must work, and you must take). I’m not even going to respond to you further, you have provided nothing of substance here. Just vapid lefty bs.
Mimisbrunner, why don’t you show us your face, so we the true identity behind those thoughts of yours.
I have took off my makeup, now it’s time you take off yours.
As scroogey and heartless as you are, I don’t believe even you should work. I am a kind and forgiving deity. I believe as amorphos does - we could easily have robots helping us, but people just want people to have mindless busywork.
A butchered Joker quote? Ha-Ha might have something to say about that.
Look you started the thread “Welfare is good for the economy” and now you’re talking about forcing people to allow the theft of their money because they are selfish. You are ridiculous. The mental gymnastics of a leftist never cease to amaze.
Joker is a butcher, so why shouldn’t I butcher his quotes?
Money is a fake illusion, even CelineK knows that.
As your kind and benevelont overlord, the only work I would force on you is an hour of massages everyday. And yet you would have people in their slave jobs working like a mindless automaton for 10 hours. Anything else, is “leftist soup.”
Who is the real slave driver here? You or me?