We're GW Doomed Anyway, So Who Cares About Murder?!

I find it ironic that after millenia of trusting diviners and priests to predict the future for us with no rational basis whatsoever, we become sublimely skeptical once someone with actual predictive power like a climate-change scientist comes along.

I guess people just want to hear what they want to hear.

It is quite obvious that I contribute to the presentation and acceptance of the truth …

… As well as perhaps as a foil for you to use in acting out your oppositional defiancy so that you might become beneficially aware of it.

Do, though, try to stay on-topic, SIATD, as only the former is of value to the rest of us in this thread.

What is it that doesn’t make sense about scientists using hype in order to recieve funds?

The business aspect: results that do not favor big business + people in power might be rewarded with bribes and additional funding for research that DOES favor them.

The population aspect: results that concern the entire population, say, global warming, gain urgency, and therefore funding for more research.

It is not that the scientists want to get rich, it is that they want money given to them (from topics they themselves are not interested in, but the entire world is) in order to fund things that DO interest them.

A little shock and a little scare go a long way. And it is far too easy to misinterpret data, especially on purpose.

A few questions then:

  1. Why do people outside of climatology accept these findings, when they end up leeching off of their funding (funding is very much a zero sum game. In recent years, it has only become worse).

  2. What advantage does the Global Warming model have, from a funding/public histeria standpoint, that Global Cooling doesn’t?

  3. If it is for funding, why not manipulate the data into something that industry would support (and therefore give money to) as well as something that the government would support (and therefore give money to).

  4. Given that science has become an incredibly specialized field, and climatology labs that study global warming tend just to study global warming, that seems a silly way of funding pet projects.

  5. Given that funding is contingent not upon the result of pet projects, but based on the results of the main project, why devote huge resources to something they do not endorse at the expense to things they do?

LOL, a few posters are arrogant asses, who believe they are intellectually superior to all others, and are not here to learn, only to show they are superior.

Sabrina, you are not wrong, and do not be intimidated.

Smiles,

aspacia :sunglasses:

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Alternatively, after years of scepticism directed towards priests and witch doctors, the latest bunch of people trying to claim authority but peddling contradictory assumption-laden propaganda are finding themselves subject to the same scepticism and don’t like it precisely because they want authority, not truth.

If so, this includes scientists.

SMIATD, you are really low. Dear ILP posters here is what my post really said"

PostPosted: Thu Feb 15, 2007 3:49 am Post subject: Reply with quote
Sabrina wrote:
someoneisatthedoor wrote:
Tell me, Sabrina - do you understand the notion of being wrong?

Your obvious obsession with me is topically irrelevant.

Please do your best to post on topic.

Thank you.

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Sabrina, you are not wrong, and do not be intimidated.

Yes, look in the mirror. Hilarious! :evilfun:

Aspacia,

As per usual, no one is paying attention to the slightest thing you have to say so you revert to insults as a desperate scream for attention.

It’s a bit sad, especially for a person of your years. Here’s a suggestion - try learning to write in a charming, amusing and informed fashion. You know, like I do. I never have any trouble getting responses to what I write here. You’d probably feel better about yourself and not have to shout and scream all the time like some sort of incontinent child.

The Human Race is one of the most resilient species on the planet. If we die I doubt that there will be any life on earth besides some bacteria. Even if you take the most horrible doomsday scenario Global Warming offers I bet I could find a loop-hole were the humans live. Even if Global Nuclear war breaks out not every spot on the planet will be bombed just certain ones. whenever people talk about the end of the human race the only real threat is a threat that covers every spot on earth and is a scene that would leave no survivors. A comet hitting the earth is one example that would cover the earth in extreme heat killing all.

When the human race was in its infancy a super-volcano erupted and covered the earth in volcanic ash which blocked out the sun and lowered temperatures dramatically. About 32,000 people survived in this time with little technology. It might be a bumpy ride but will get through it.

Hilarious, you are the insolent, rude child, not aspacia. You are the one who throws tantrums. Frankly, during the course of the day, I receive too much attention from students, family and friends, and am simply here to understand the innocence of children, the innocence I once had. You have no idea regarding the train wreck heading your way little one.

Without appreciation, regards, nor respect,

aspacia :evilfun:

Must be nice living in a self-important ivory tower of delusion.
Ever hear the Kinks song, “There is no England Anymore?”

I find it amusing that it has taken you a month to respond to this post. And yes, I’m more than familiar with that Kinks song. Ever heard ‘Spanish Bombs’?

not over the din of american flatulence…

-Imp

As previously stated, I have been working 11 hour days, a work ethic you evidently do not have.

However, this rather fits you:

This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.

[b]* Manipulative and Conning
  They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.[/b]

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You are manipulative and attempt to con others into believe your superiority. Most other posters are far more humble.

Bingo, this fits you, as you believe your are really important, when in reality, few are.

Continuously changing another’s words, and distorting their language is a form of pathological lying. You want to continuously play the “I win! You lose! game” rather than learning from others.

You have zero shame or remorse regarding how insult numerous other posters. The mods have called you on this numerous times. In contrast, most posters must be personally attacked three or more times before going after you. You also have a huge rage against feminists and the West in general.

You are often outraged regarding insignificant matters (i.e. a poster disagrees with you).

You often have verbal outbursts when posters disagree with you.

You are contemptuous of others you disagree with your claims.

You refuse to apologize or ever admit you may err. Wake-up, you do not walk on water, no one does.

  1. Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
  2. Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
  3. Authoritarian
  4. Secretive
  5. Paranoid
  6. Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
  7. Conventional appearance
  8. Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
  9. Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim’s life
  10. Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim’s affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
  11. Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
  12. Incapable of real human attachment to another
  13. Unable to feel remorse or guilt
  14. Extreme narcissism and grandiose
  15. May state readily that their goal is to rule the world

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Sucks your superiority.

:imp:

Nuclear confrontation and Y2K were very real threats. The fact that the new millennium ticked over without a glitch is proof that when something effects the power elite, they pull out all the stops to keep the status quo. And it worked.

Re Global Warming? I have my doubts about man-induced climate change ever since I found out about global dimming – i.e. while man-made pollution blankets the earth and keeps the heat from escaping, the same pollution keeps the sun from penetrating thus almost canceling each other out. The fact that the sun radiation on earth has been dimming over the decades doesn’t seem to get a mention anywhere?

Additionally, the history of the planet’s heating and cooling – most likely caused by solar flares – makes man’s effect on the weather almost insignificant.

Having said that, I’m all for cleaning up ALL pollution simply because it can’t be good for us or the planet but to say that human activity is THE main contributor to global warming, then jump to an apocalyptic scenario, is a little too rich for me.

Let’s focus on cleaning the air without the dramatics. The last thing we need is more hot air. (hey, I like that :slight_smile:)

I love the way that in your mind, working more, consuming more, spending more and paying more in taxes while having less time for the things you’re truly passionate about is somehow an achievement. I work less time than you, live cheaper than you (hence use up less resources), have more time for my hobbies and probably enjoy my life more, yet you’ve got ‘work ethic’, so that makes you better. The principal reason you are on this site is to try to ‘take me down’, to use a phrase you enjoy, whereas my arguing with you is for me an amusing sidetrack from what I’m actually doing here. But it’s alright. You’ve got ‘work ethic’.

Have you been taking lectures from Psyque? At least he knew how to handle this material. Nonetheless, I’ll tell you what I told him - that you’d go to such effort to try to prove this point indicates that you are far more mentally ill than I.

Aspacia’s homepage

And Aspacia’s taken to the large fonts (repeating past thoughts with it of course)…

Nicely done.

I bet you connect so well with your students.

LOL, he has been gone for ages, and you remain a sociopath; totally arrogant and cruel without remorse.

:evilfun:

Then why are 75% of your posts designed to try to insult me, or more recently, psychoanalyse me? If I’m not worth taking down, why are you blatantly trying to do that?

And you remain someone who is trying to psychoanalyse someone via the internet due to a strange personal vendetta that no-one else understands.