This is a huge side topic, so I won’t mount a case, but I think it seems that way because we are sitting on so much that if you do this around other people explosions and violence seem inevitable. We all hold back and this reduces the triggers and we even forget what it is to express what we feel.
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Cult Watchamacallit.
Beliefs: all birds are djinn spirits that run the universe.
Cost of disbelief: expulsion.
No member thinks the djinn birds are real. The more absurd, the better. Make it pink happy birds. To profess to believe in an absurdity that you know is absurd is as good a stamp of obedience as you will find. The measure of dissent, then, gives you the measure of those who will not bend their own souls at your pleasure. The measure of obedience.
Well, if you’d like make a side topic, but sadly i have pretty strong memories about the cruelty of children, so im a bit opposed to your position in regards of this.
Expecting that all human beings are capable of behaving rationally and harmonize with their internal self is something i used to think. Today i view that belief of mine as infinitely naive and incorrect.
Children who are still learning behavior patterns are a fine example of what instinctive behavior looks like. Forming cliques and ganging up on the weak is also a form of cult, and in certain age brackets, they come with barely an ounce of rationality or empathy.
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That’s happening right now anyway. I have no utopian changeover. It’d take a century of tiny steps.
What do you mean, that people put up absurd beliefs just in order to manipulate them? But who would fall into it?
BTW, great entries from everyone here, let’s have some applause:
By the way, would you like to join my cult? 
Cults don’t exist. Here’s why. The only people with enough rizz and aura to justify there being a cult (and such a pathos of distance from the herd) in the very first place would never join one. Or start one, for that matter. Why not. Because nobody can be trusted (they turn rats, double-crossers, etc), and only a moron would want or be careless enough to take that risk. People with rizz and aura are not morons. Ergo, people with rizz and aura are not in cults. Ergo, because only people with rizz and aura can start or be in a cult, cults don’t exist.
What you’re calling a cult is really just a sub-herd of some weird people. You may have a few alpha chads in there, but no sigmas. And a cult without sigmas in it is lame af. But we just established that rizzed sigmas with aura don’t join cults… they drink alone… so no… there are no cults. Call em clubs. That’s an appropriately lame title for such groups.
Manson family for instance. Hardly a cult. That was an exclusive group of dark hippies too burned out on magazines and LSD to be interesting.
There is one single thing that drives people into cults.
It’s not a need to believe.
It’s not gullibility.
It’s not stupidity (probably a higher than average iq as a group).
It’s a need to belong.
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What they get in exchange for their obedience and all kinds of humiliation and horror is guaranteed, unbreakable, profound unity of group.
The very psychopathy that ties you to obedience ties them to constance and intensity of company.
Because you are the slave that will never waver, they are the master that will never relent.
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But everybody wants to belong. We need a feature that makes people wanna belong to a cult rather than to ordinary folks groups.
I say it’s the same belonging we all want but the belongers are different and wanna belong somewhere else. Other rejects, outcasts, oddballs, eccentrics that dweeb out on the same stuff.
Mainstream pseudoscience is a religious cult which adopts a +=- and -=+ starting philosophical guess for its foundational claims which we know has resulted in the failure of all its flag ship theories.It proudly displays its God Shiva outside its HQ at CERN near Geneva.It makes no secret whatsoever of the fact that it’s totally aligned with Buddhism religious beliefs.
All of you here are in a cult, but since none of you even recognise which cult that is, you do not even realise that you are in a cult.
No, not me. Nobody would have me… and I don’t do sketchy shit with friends either, anyway. They’ll snitch on ya if they get popped.
I’m a one man cult, you could say. We have our own constitution, laws, moral codes, all that shit.
How do you justify this assertion? What is your evidence? What is your definition of cult?
C’mon, man. You know all this. On a forum, a ‘cult member’ is whoever doesn’t believe what you believe. I thought this was obvious.
You believing that you are not in a cult means that you don’t even recognise which cult you are in. This justifies my assertion. That you don’t even notice that you are in a cult, also justifies my assertion.
The evidence that we are all raised in a cult is because of what a cult is. Do you know what a cult is?
As I said earlier, my definition of cult, and how you can know if you are in one, which you obviously did not read or have forgotten, is:
You can notice if you are in a cult, or within a culture, when you just follow and do not question absolutely everything that is told and put forward to you.
The essence of a cult or a culture is having followers who do not question.
See, it is only when you question enough that you then notice and realise that you are in and have always been in a cult.
Now, if anyone needs any further evidence, then ask for it.
LOL. Oh, Age, you had better logic before. Age, you’re a pedophile. The fact that you don’t think your are a pedophile is evidence you are a pedophile. That you don’t even notice you are having sex with children, justifies my assertion. LOL. But let me help you understand what you are doing fallaciously here:
Your argument is a classic Kafkatrap, a rhetorical fallacy where asking about the justification of your assertion is used as the very “proof” of your assertion. By claiming that my lack of recognition is evidence of the cult’s influence, you have created a closed loop where any disagreement on my part only serves to confirm your premise.
This makes your claim unfalsifiable. In any logical discussion, an assertion must be capable of being disproven; however, you have rigged the logic so that “heads you win, tails I lose.” By rebranding questioning and disagreement as proof, you aren’t actually justifying your assertion—you are just repeating it. And it seems you had no proof before I responded for your assertion.
Ultimately, you are using circular reasoning to avoid providing real evidence. You have decided the conclusion is true beforehand and are interpreting my behavior to fit that conclusion. It is a conversational dead end because you treat any response as proof.
The sentence suffers from two overlapping issues: a logical error and a grammatical error.
The logical error is known as circular reasoning or a tautology. The sentence suggests that the proof for the claim is simply the claim itself. It essentially boils down to saying that the proof of us being in a cult is the definition of a cult. It doesn’t actually provide any external data or specific observations; it just points back to the dictionary without adding new information.
The grammatical error is called faulty predication, specifically a redundant causality error. In English, a noun like evidence needs to be linked to a statement of fact rather than a causal explanation. Using the phrase “the evidence is because” is a mismatch because evidence is a thing you observe, whereas because introduces a reason. You can have evidence that something is true, but the evidence itself cannot be a “because.”
Well, that can be disproven 1) in my responses to you (I don’t follow what you tell me and one example among many) and 2) in many of my posts here. And, no evidence is presented by you here. Just assertions. You don’t understand what evidence is.
You know, I don’t think you, as Age, would have used this extremely low level of sophistry. So, I see signs of deterioration. If you can’t see this, that’s evidence the deterioration is very serious.
You take care anew1. I mean, that literally. Please take care of yourself. Back on ignore.
You also spelled recognize incorrectly. I know you like to improve your communication, though this is likely the only way you will.
LOL What a joke. You obviously do not know the difference between a cult and pedophilia.
Trying to claim that evidence that you greenfuse are a pedophile is when you do not even recognize you are a pedophile is beyond absurdism. You could not be more fallaciously here.
In case you have completely forgotten the topic of this thread is about what cults are, and how can you know you are in a cult?
The rest of what you wrote is just nonsense. Everyone here knows of examples of when people are in cults and they do not recognise and know they are in a cult. This, again, is how you can know when one is in a cult.
Another way you can know when one is in a cult, as I have stated a couple of times already, is when you do not question everything. Which, again, is what leads one to be in a cult, without realising they are. See, only when you question everything then that is when you realise you have grown up in, have been raised, and/or are still in a cult.
Which, again, is why you are in the cult you are in. The fact that you do not even wonder what cult I am talking about is further evidence of how and why you are in that cult, that you are in. Whilst you continue to not question here this is the proof, and how you can know, you are in a cult. You are living your life blissfully within a cult and not even knowing you are.
The other stuff you have babbled on about here is just your usual toxic way to try to detract away from your inability to argue successfully.
You write in a thread about cults, yet you are proving to not yet even understand what a cult is exactly. Your absolutely insistent belief that you are not in a cult is letting you down completely greenfuse.
What even is your definition of cult?
Pretty sure the lack of evidence is not evidence of anything…
The call of cultulu.
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Another one who has missed the point entirely.
For example, how would you know when you are not in a cult?
Is the lack of evidence that you are in a cult evidence that you are not in a cult?
Again, you are in a cult, and just like when all the other people who are in cults are told they are in a cult, you, like them, are in disbelief. You believe you are not, and, to you, that is all the evidence you need.