This question came to me after one of my earlier posts, i was wondering, what everyone values the most, philosophically that is. I mean do you value Freedom? Justice? Truth? Wisdom? Knowledge? etc. Now i do know everyone has different definitions of each but i’m looking at a general perspective. Personally i value the truth to be the most important as i believe that all else can only be achieved after the “ultimate” truth is found.
Biscuits
Physically, security.
Philosophically, truth.
Gastronomically, same as SIATD
The wife, the kid, the big TV in the living room. In roughly that order. Some days it changes naturally. And pizza, always pizza.
I value Pizza. Pizza that I make with my son, the stuff which comes in boxes from reg’s kebab shop, the ready made heat it yourself supermarket pizza. The best is sold late at night at Piccadilly Circus (but that was so long ago now). The freedom to value pizza is valuable also.
When I was younger and poorer, I would have voted
pizza, but today I am sophisticated middle aged man.
… but pizza sounds good.
What do I value the most?
Honesty.
A rare steak
SF Giants.
Kropotkin
I value truth and wisdom to be the most important of the things that you listed.
However, I also value longevity(sp?). By “longevity”, I mean, “the tendency not to change over long (if not, eternal) periods of time”.
This is true of even things in daily life. If you are going to by an expensive electronic item (like a High-def TV), you most likely will seek to purchase a model that has the latest of latest technology on it (providing you can afford it). By doing this, you are ensuring that your new TV will be the most up-to-date for the longest possible amount of time. People just like having things that always remain relavent, if you catch my drift…
…Just my humble opinions, anywhoo
BMW-Guy:
However, I also value longevity(sp?). By “longevity”, I mean, “the tendency not to change over long (if not, eternal) periods of time”.
K: “I fail to see how this is a positive. Actually, given change
is the one constant in the universe, change must be
a priority in both our lives and in the universe.”
Kropotkin
great big tax cuts
-Imp
Point taken. But would you not agree that mankind loves Consistency, in general? Just as change is a necessary “function” of the universe, so also are consistent patterns necessary, as well. By this, I mean, we (or at least I would) hate to live in a world without order. Perhaps this is only true given that I’ve never lived in any world except a world of order.
So, where does this put us? At this point, I feel that we need to define “consistency”. Is not the essence of consistency merely “long-term orderli-ness”?
Sorry if this is terribly confussing. I hope this makes sense.
BMW-Guy:
However, I also value longevity(sp?). By “longevity”, I mean, “the tendency not to change over long (if not, eternal) periods of time”.
K: “I fail to see how this is a positive. Actually, given change
is the one constant in the universe, change must be
a priority in both our lives and in the universe.”
BMW: Point taken. But would you not agree that mankind loves Consistency, in general? Just as change is a necessary “function” of the universe, so also are consistent patterns necessary, as well. By this, I mean, we (or at least I would) hate to live in a world without order. Perhaps this is only true given that I’ve never lived in any world except a world of order.
So, where does this put us? At this point, I feel that we need to define “consistency”. Is not the essence of consistency merely “long-term orderli-ness”?
K: I think the order you talk about it, is human generated anyway.
We take random events and create order from some human
generated ideals. Nature itself does not have order.
That is a human idea. Nature just exists.
Kropotkin
Not trying to hi-jack Blindseer’s thread here by going off-topic, but…
See, this is where I will have to humbly disgree with you. I feel that nature and the nature of the universe is, in fact, inherently orderly. Perhaps our peception of how or [of] what this order actualy is,…is human-generated. But not the actual order in the universe, itself.
I mean, do not even Evolutionists presuppose that we live in a world of order?
At the very least, I believe that the order we percieve in our world is incredibly consistent. Order can only be perceive accurately as “nothing less than Order, itself”.
Just my humble opinions on this issue anyways. I might add that this could make for a completely seperate thread, itself.
what do i value? that’s a tough question.
probably love, honesty, faith, and loyalty.
that’s all i can think of right now.
the one and only thing that is ever important to anybody is happiness
Future Man: the one and only thing that is ever important to anybody is happiness"
K: Not to be difficult or anything, but that is simply not true.
I know people who actively run away from happiness,
who try to complicate their lives as much as possible.
Besides people are very confused about what is happiness
and what to do, to get to happiness.
Kropotkin
HUMOR
My children. But when they are mean to me… pizza. Yea, I’d go with a really good pizza.
My pair of angel wings.
lol interesting posts guys, but i’m trying to not get this moved to teh “mundane babble” section, let’s try to keep it philosophical shall we?
Is that in order of importance? And can you justify your opinion?
oh btw, i do have to agree that a good pizza is an amazing thing to have, i do value it much but it can’t beat a good hug, or even a good laugh anyday so
For once, I pretty much agree with Future Man. Even if these confused people are running from happiness, it’s because they don’t see what will make them truely happy. (Which Aristotle says is a life of morally excellent behaviour.)
Now, Aquinas (i’m being a Scholastic dittohead here) said, “The person is the noblest thing in the whole of nature”. (“Noble” meaning that which exists most for it’s own sake.) Boethius defines the person as “an individual substance of rational nature”…which includes God, as well as ourselves and our fellow man.
So if people are the most noble thing, it seems to be the highest objective value. If only I were more of a people person!
mrn