What If God Were A Tree?

Everything Western Civilization knows about time, revolves around Divinity, whether it be the names of the day, week, month, but also the year 2021 Anno Domini (meaning Year of the Lord Christ), according to Roman Catholicism.

Almost all of humanity glosses over this, and does not realize its significance. It is the premise of the past, present, and future.

And all of them, except the year number, from Pagan sources.

You’d be surprised about numbers and mathematics too… Mathematicians were/are literally Magicians for many centuries.

It wasn’t since the Enlightenment that they were re-defined as “Scientists” instead, which was the result of Secularization.

The apparent “appropriation” of Greek gods by Romans is an artefact of historiography. Rome did not steal Greek gods; but greek and roman god had to the same source. Such similarities are not exclusive to greece and rome but hav echoes in Germanic myth.
Astrology’s roots are from Babylon and came to Rome quite late and so too is Jove’s attribution to a planet Jupiter.
Jove is closer to Thor being the weilder of thunder and lightning, and sky father.
Zeus is not assocaited with a planet in greek mythology.

Oh now you want to play nice, Sculptor??? You blew that chance long ago…

Pythagoras being the archetypal example of that.

Yes that is right.

The apparent “appropriation” of Greek gods by Romans is an artefact of historiography, not a historical fact. Rome did not steal Greek gods; but greek and roman gods had to the same source. Such similarities are not exclusive to greece and rome but have echoes in Germanic myth too.
Astrology’s roots are from Babylon and came to Rome quite late and so too is Jove’s attribution to a planet Jupiter.
Jove is closer to Thor being the weilder of thunder and lightning, and sky father.
Zeus is not assocaited with a planet in greek mythology.

Rene Descartes and Spinoza are another pair who pushed mathematics forward really far, Christian and Jewish, but they were philosophers who propelled mathematical ideals.

Math and religion has a tenuous relationship. Judaism imbeds it in their language and letters.

Regardless, the Secularization of Europe was probably one of the best things to happen to Paganism after the Feudal ages, along with the Protestants.

Roman, Greek and Germanic mythology all have a common source in Indo-European mythology.

The Greeks also used letters to represent numbers. As indeed does Braille.

Please stick to the topic.

We are asking ‘what’, if god was a tree.

Like Egyptian glyphs.

Kind of… Greek letters and symbols refer to conceptual and geometric relationships. Pi, for example, is not a real number per se but rather the relationship that a circle has between its circumference and diameter. Linguistics, etymology, and the history of letters/runes is a very interesting study. I almost chose that as my profession once, but ended up with philosophy. The word and sentence-formation are more important than their singular parts (letters). Letters/runes/words are nothing without a mind to shape them into something worthwhile. When good philosophy is conducted, everybody is aware of it, because few can copy the rationality and reasoning required to do it. It’s not like any other field of study or area of life. You are responsible for ideas; they can be good or bad, valuable or worthless. Furthermore, the more you dig into philosophy, you quickly wake-up and realize the fact of where/when/whom these ideas came from (ancestors), and how they progressed through history to right now.

It does not take much provocation or prodding to goad some aspirant to unveil you the true quality of their minds. This is also the same reason why people, including on this forum, are so quick to cower away from seemingly simple questions, inquiries, debates, and conflicts. Because they would show to the greater public how much, or how little, they actually think in life, about life.

Greek letters were also used for ordinary numbers, alpha signifying one, and so on.

I really like runes, in part at least because they can be easily carved into wood, for example, and are therefore tactile.

The sort of philosophy that interests me the most is that which deals with how we perceive the world around us.

Everybody has slightly different minds, and therefore different perception, also based on infinitely different perspectives. The reason why humans relate with one-another, and can communicate, is based on instinctual levels of trust. If you cannot depend on a stranger giving you correct, accurate, or true instructions on where to go in a town or city, then that affects perception. Even the senses are inaccurate and have “blind spots” in them, including sound, taste, and touch. You may want to search into cognitive sciences if you want to know more about how perception works. The mind has to ‘translate’ sense-data and perceptual information into biological inputs. This is how, for example, people and animals recognize threats, which is also genetically heritable. And there are more sophisticated threats than what is perceived. There can be dangerous ideas and thoughts as well, like in mainstream religion, “thought crimes” or Doubt that can send people to hell. This is what is preached by some, anyway.

And also a shared language for describing the world. What I’ve always found interesting is how other people perceive the world around them and how it differs from how I do. The trust issue is also a factor, but in trivial matters, it isn’t really an important one.

Trust is one of the most important qualities of life. Humans are sexually evolved so that trust is innate within our lives and precedes us. Trust is different between man and woman, than it is between man and man, or woman and woman.

In my experiences, I’ve found that philosophy is one of the most powerful tools for learning the trustworthiness of people. If you confront a person, any stranger, and seriously pose to them “What is God?” it’s a confrontation. It’s like asking, what is the value of your life? And most people, honestly, don’t know. Because their value, they allow others to determine for them, on their behalf. They do not have a value, formed from him or herself. And the rare ones who do, quite often value themselves very poorly. Then you may cross those who value and esteem themselves very highly, and this is rarer. But, people lie, and overvalue themselves, or, undervalue themselves. Yet, what is the accuracy by which life is judged and with accord to whom? Who determines, who judges? It’s not so simple, when people are bound together, and forced to confront that fact.

On a philosophy forum, it’s a little simpler. All you need to do is ask the right questions, to the right people, at the right time. And they willingly tell you who they are, what they are, and how much they value themselves.

I can usually judge the worth of someone after a few seconds of talking, and my opinion rarely changes afterwards. First impressions are always important. Things like tone of voice, and as much what they don’t say, as what they do. I might engage them in trivial conversation, but there’s always a reason behind it.

Sometimes it’s wise to show your worst before you show your best.

I think that depends on the situation, and what one hopes to achieve.