What is philosophical nihilism?

The strategy of philosophical nihilism is to determine what motivates specific central theories, to state what purpose such notions serve.

Nihilism and existentialism are often expressions of each other.

Aimless relativity is nihilism. Chaos.

if all you know is you know nothing, knowing that you know nothing violates the rule of knowing nothing :-s

nihilism has been like a pet of mine… when i was a kid i would dream that we are fungi on the earth or all biological robots. then i would think we are about as valuable as intergalactic dust floating through the indifference of space…

but then i remember how wicked nachos taste and i become OK with my fate…

not discounting the possibility of a greater power of coarse…

philosophically though nihilism is a quick journey.

one tends to finish before he begins so to speak, IMO anyway…

Nihilism on this forum at least is people who claim there is absolutely no point to life, no point to death, and no point to anything. As such they consistently claim that we should all die because there is no point, but when confronted with the idea of death they think there is also no point, and so one might as well continue to live, but that also entails doing all other things that living consists of. They argue for the lack of a purpose in anything, yet the argument itself necessarily is proof that the argument must have had a purpose. If not, and the counterpoint is that a purpose is not necessary for its presence, then it follows that an objective purpose to anything is unnecessary and living life is just as justified as anything else, with or without a purpose, and nihilism should thereofre not result in any way in a change of one’s actions. Like a game of chess, they think the check mate necessarily follows the first check, but they fail to see the remainder of the game. Simply put, it is not a philosophy here, it is short sighted hypocrisy.

Philosophical nihilism: The philosophy of the will to the end.

the lack of belief in Humanties very existence

which I adhor

Does it hurt your feelings, North? Is that what you are trying to say?

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The heart of nihilism is the heart of survival. If you unlock this secret, then you are a nihilist for life.

what a bunch of BS

I think nihilism’s most excepted definition is “the belief that all values devaluate themselves.”

So, there is nothing of trancendental intrinsic value. There is nothing that has value in and of itself. Since all things are also finite, time will ensure that all projects eventually amount to nothing.

I have two gripes:

Logically, nihilism is completely incoherent. To argue that we should take nihilism seriously as a belief, is a contradiction, since it is making a normative claim. Hence the theory of nihilism has value. When people argue that they are nihilists, they are actually making completely no sense.

Secondly, nihilism and existentialism are not the same. However a belief in nihilism can be a step toward authenticity in existentialism. Sartre argues that individuals create value, and apply value to being-in-itself, hence there are real values, but are relative to the individual and their respective projects. Human beings must create value and apply meaning to the meaningless universe or they are living in bad faith.

Don’t knock it unless you’ve tried it! :unamused:

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It’s hard to try something that makes no sense as a normative claim! You are saying the equivalent of try “oogledy boogeldy gook”. Also if survival has value, then survival cannot be the heart of nihilism.

That’s a big if.

I’m beginning to wonder if the word “nihilism” is such an intelligent idea that actually exists…

Are you trying to tell me that you know the ultimate reality, truth and survivability of man? What is it? :sunglasses:

If I was a betting man I would say you don’t know.

From where I am standing it made more sense than the jargon of your previous post.

Logic is a expression of man’s emotion. It is dispensable. Logos is not universal or absolute.

The expression of nihilism does not negates man’s level of hypocrisies and contradictions in living.

(It merely points them out.)

If anything nihilism is the expression of absence when it comes to universal values. It does not deny that people can subjectively create their own value systems but it does reduce them to fictions and individual interpretations within people.

I was merely trying to articulate that nihilism can be a stepping stone to existentialism and vice versa in that they can correspond with each other.

Survival has value of the individual giving it one subjectively through various interpretations, preferences and perspectives.

To say that survival has universal or absolute value is the heart of religious arguement.

I for one don’t indulge in religious dogmas.

Aren’t we all “nihilists”? Isn’t the term a bit moot there?

The only real nihilist is a dead man. A true nihilist believes the world ought not to be. Why doesn’t the nihilist act upon this “ought”?

Even if you believe in the truth of nihilism, you are not living nihilism. Anyone who cannot live their personal philosophy is a hypocrite. Nietzsche went through nihilism as a stage after the death of Christianity. Then he embarked on the transvaluation of value, to create new values in a godless world. He made a valiant effort but sadly he went mad.

Will to power is a new value. Will to power is not nihilism.

This is existentialism. Not nihilism. The creation of subjective value and meaning is still a value. Hence, not nihilism.