What is the connection between morality and religion?

The Golden Rule doesn’t work on it’s own. First, nobody can agree to what counts as harm (assisted suicide), and if all else fails, we can just decide the subject of our ill-treatment doesn’t count as a person and is exempt- Slavery before, these days abortion.
Ironically, the ‘Golden Rule’ was the Second commandment according to it’s source.

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This seems arbitrary. Aren’t I free to say “Religious morality does function- if it didn’t, things would be a whole lot worse!” Things are they way they are because of human nature- religion tries to override that, and succeeds to the degree is succeeds. You would say not very well…ok.

  How could you possibly prove or even reasonably suggest that? Do we have any real idea how many people end up as good persons because the Bible or their priest or what-have-you told them how to be good, vs. how many people end up being good persons because it came to them from within? This just sounds like a guess on your part. 

Ahh, so when people act bad, their ignoring the morals of religion, but when they act well, they’re obeying the morals that come from within them. I can just as easily reverse that.

Are we really so alien from each other? If I find out what is moral through introspection, and write it down, are those words really not going to apply to other humans?

Why do the masses insist religion promotes morality, when it’s blatantly obvious that Christianity has perpetuated, and continues to perpetuate, sexism?

I don’t think that Christanity perpetuates it, but the attitude stems from Puritanical thinking. I don’t think the dogma of the church fears women or sex… I do think they promote morality and mean well - it is the interpretation that gets lost in the mix.

Also, the definition of sexism changes year to year, culture to culture, so we very well may reach a point where the Bible or Christianity promotes something that we’ve started calling ‘sexist’. If Christianity doesn’t change, and culture changes constantly, then sooner or later Christianity will be seen evil in various ways.

Hi Ucc,

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The Golden Rule doesn’t work on it’s own. First, nobody can agree to what counts as harm (assisted suicide), and if all else fails, we can just decide the subject of our ill-treatment doesn’t count as a person and is exempt- Slavery before, these days abortion.
Ironically, the ‘Golden Rule’ was the Second commandment according to it’s source. [/quote
But it does work on it’s own. We are neither good nor evil, but we do know the difference, and asking us to choose good over evil is the only true morality. Of course we don’t agree, but if we truly wish to do what is right, the compromises are possible. Morality set in stone divides us. Golden Rule asks us to find ways to be together. A subtle difference? Perhaps. But a difference that makes a difference.

Christianity doesn’t propagate sexism. Feminists do.

Allow me to elaborate. Feminism tells women that they must be “more” than a mere housewife. That to be JUST a housewife is the absolute worst thing you can be as a women. Christianity on the other hand tells women the truth. A housewife is the absolute BEST thing that women do. To take on a career, you narrow yourself, you have to harden yourself. Women naturally have empathy, and “broad”, jack of all trades sort of thinking that is great to teach our youth.

Don’t believe me? the men out there, I dare you to call your wife a housewife… regardless of whether she is or not, and how much of a compliment you see it as, she has been trained that it’s an insult, equal to being called a cunt.

The simple truth is this. Men and women are different by design (or nature if you wish) and no amount of social engineering is going to make us the same. Why do you think Women have so much trouble in the job market? It’s because they are trying to live double lives. They are trying to keep the boss happy, and keep their family happy. Instead of being a mere housewife, they think it’s better to “broaden” themselves and get a career. The truth is that careers are narrow. There’s nothing broad or grand about doing what your Boss asks you to 5+ days a week. Bending over backwards for your values and family so that you can climb the ladder of success over the bodies of the fallen co-workers. Is that really grand?

Isn’t it far more grand to shape the futures of our children? To make whatever you want for your husband and family, and not have to listen to some boss tell you, that you screwed up? To take your kids to the park after school, to watch them learn and grow on the playground equipment.

This brings me to my second fact. Those feminists who cried “sexism”, never and will never have children. They are in a minority, that is trying (quite successfully) destroy the value of motherhood, to make themselves fit in to society better.

Congratulations, mission accomplished. Now our sons and daughters are all fucked up. It’s not solely the fault of the mothers who bought the lie… the fathers bought another lie… That they didn’t need to stick around, they could be weekend dads. That it’s better to leave than to deal with hardships in the relationship.

Trade up for a better model.

Our country is in the burning handbasket and people are complaining that it’s hot, and worried about what is going on, but none of them care to take responsibility to change where we’ve come, to make a better tomorrow.