What is the first law of Universe ?

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Now it is consider that Newton / Einstein,s laws
of gravitation are the first laws of Universe.

Newton was a clever man therefore when he discovered his
" law of gravitation" he quickly understood that
soon or later the all matter in the Universe had to gather
in the " singular point".
And because this effect does not happen in the Nature,
Newton , being very religius man , thought that only God,s
power did not give the matter to gather in a " singular point".
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And then atheistic time came .
They decided :
As God does not exist, so the all matter in Universe
must gather in a " singular point".

I don,t agree that Newton / Einstein,s laws
of gravitation are the first laws of Universe.
Why?
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Take simple atom: proton and electron,( small distances).
Nobody interests in gravitation interaction between
proton and electron . There is not any theory about
gravitation interaction between proton and electron .
Everybody interests only in electrical ( nuclear)
interaction between them.
It means that Newton / Einstein,s laws of gravitation
are local and limited.
This law in the small ( nuclear) distance does not work.
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Take Universe ( cosmic distances).
There is not theory about gravitation interaction between
galaxy A. and galaxy Z. We don,t need it.
Why? For example.
Let,s imagine of all apple- trees on our Earth
as a galaxy, and apples as stars.
Nobody will interest in the interaction between
an apple- tree in New York ( galaxy A.) and
an apple- tree (cherry-tree) in Varanasi (galaxy Z.).
It means that Newton / Einstein,s laws of gravitation
are local and limited.
This law in the big cosmic distance does not work.
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Conclusion.
Newton / Einstein,s laws of gravitation cannot be
“The first law of Universe.”

What can be the first law of Universe?
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All galaxyies (gravitation fields) exist in Vacuum (T=0K)
therefore Vacuum can be “The first law of Universe.”
Then we must ask questions:
" How is it possible to break homogeneous
and symmetric Vacuum: T=0K ?”,
“How in Vacuum could gravitation fields be created?”,
“How in Vacuum can the process of star formation begin?”

If somebody doubt that from cold Vacuum T=0K
the hot stars can be created, please, remember that
The Second law of thermodynamics does not forbid this possibility.

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The first rule about the universe: Don’t talk about the rules of the universe.

I think a vacuum probably was first–but speculating about what law cames first assumed they didn’t all come at once. I’m not sure that’s true.

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Good first rule.

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…when particles of a certain sort come together – they “connect”, not literally, but in the sence of the “creation” of a femtosphere. These tiny bits of force are not “matter”, thus they do not need to “touch” before they “connect”, in the behavioral sense of the word…

I would not go so far as to say that the quantu has time, gravity, motion, etc., in the seporate sense of the word, but I would say that the quantu has behavior…

On the smallest scale – there is no “why”, because there is no mechanics, because there is no combination of lesser-parts, there is simply force, and connection to relatives or equals.

But I’m talking about what my mind will “see” when it “looks” at the subatomic. I am not talking about what I “know”.

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I wouldn’t say that any human has learned enough to create a working, definite law about the entire universe.

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Agreed. The current cosmology assumes that the Universe is homogeneous and the physical laws are same throughout the Universe. These are big assumptions and are very difficult, if not impossible to test. There are also some studies reporting that the so-called universal constants like speed of light was not actually constant throughout the history of the universe.

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Now it is consider that Newton / Einstein,s laws
of gravitation are the first laws of Universe

I still think the first law of the universe is the law of attraction. Without attraction, there could not be matter.

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What can be the first law of Universe?

I think the vacuum represents the absolute allness, infinite space. It is that which ever had been, is now, and ever shall be, whether there be a universe or not, and whether there be gods or not. Vacuum can be thought of as absolute container of everything, manifest or not manifest for there is no outside of infinite space. By itself, it is in a state of absolute rest and calmness therefore cannot be held to manifest form. When this infinite space wakes up from restful dream state by rhythm, the law of attraction and repulsion, then it will make its first manifestation which in the bible it says…in the beginning was the word and everything visible and invisible proceeded from that. So to me the first law, the first manifestation of the eternal parent infinite space was rhythm, the law of attraction and repulsion.

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There is no first law. No integers in natural function. The laws of gravitation cannot be due to the pomo’s lack of knowledge regarding gravity’s opposing force. Much less their lack of understanding simple things like ‘spooky-action-at-a-distance’ or the double slit experiment.
But sticking to the topic, the universe is the domain of natural function, not natural integers.

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Of course there is. There is law and order in everything. There was a first cause and from this first cause, everything is becoming.

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No. Gravity and CI show us the ellipse that gives us the motion path, and relationship of the first 4 dimensions, which tells us there was no beginning. There are laws, just not in an order. No natural integers in perpetualty.

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You can say that again! :sunglasses:

A+

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Speaking about the law of attraction, it is also the Sex principle. Please do not misunderstand me. We cannot escape sex in nature. Everything all around us including us is caused by sex and sex only. Sex is male-female, positive-negative, opposites. If we examine an atom it has opposite polarities, the positive and the negative. It marries, divorces and remarries other atoms. For example, I have a cup of water, water is a marriage of 2 elements H2O. Now when I put 10 drops of red food coloring in the water, the electrons (-) become detached (divorced) from its (+) male comapnion and start seeking union (remarries) with another (+) companion and the process is replicated until there is matter which unite with other matter and everything is created this way and no other way. Yes the first priciple is the sex principle, the law of attraction, it is demonstrable. No there is no beginning. IT already IS.