To be born, perhaps, then labor, either for punishment or rewards.
So if being born is perhaps the worst life, why are we born?
Because for the sake of husband and wife, they yearn for children or it is just a punishment for the teens to take responsibility?
But then again what is the worst life?
Litteraly we are born because of our parents. One with the genetic influence to procreate will have their genes passed on.
If people hate life, think they should not bring children into the world and therefor don’t have kids, that mindset will not be passed on.
Does the parents really have the power to bear kids? Some parents are sterile and cannot bear children. Many teens have kids because of their lustful behavior caused by the media perhaps.
Next, I don’t think people hate life, it is the sufferings that all go through. Labor, death, mourning, punishment, old age, sickness, poverty. Humanity is just doomed.
Of course there are always exceptions to evrything but is your hate for life strong enough to keep you from bringing a child into the world? If so thats plain natural selection.
One that mistakes it for a nap in life’s waiting room.
Nice answer, Gobbo.
I see, then condemning is natural.
I have a sense of what this means, but i do not like to judge or assume anything. So tell us all what do you mean by this, because I am not intelligent enough to comprehend it. Explain it in a simple way if possible.
What I mean is that everyone is born into certain circumstances, some can afford to sit around and read great literature, deeping their knowledge. Some can’t, some have it rough, it’s just the way it is.
What is important however, is that you never loose control of your mind. Not to be silently coerced into some zombie state where you simply let life flow all around you without instead sinking your hands into it and feeling the texture.
The worst life is one without dreams basically.
very well said Old-Gobbo, I think you got it in one.
I c I c.
The worst life is without dreams. it would have been better if you said then the rhethoric art statement.
What kind of dreams you suppose is worth living? Then again it is a dream, an illusion, you soon need to wake up, everything you done will come to nothing.
As Bodhidarma puts it, “When the silient illumination is complete, the lotus will blossom and the dreamer will awaken”. Realization I suppose.
Not really cause you don’t get it. I’m not talking about just the dreams you have when you go to sleep, although that’s certainly part of it.
The rhetoric art statement is there for a purpose… along with the rest of the stuff. It’s not going anywhere, go back and have another look.
Have I meant dreams like dreams on being an movie or rock start, or a famous writer. Is it not that what you mean.
Gobbo is right.
If Gobbo is right “One that mistakes it for a nap in life’s waiting room”, which means the worst life is without dreams.
Then the best life would be opposite, one with dreams, " One thats knows it is not a nap in lifes waiting room"
Richard
I guess his dream was to become a normal person, if not, what else can you be but a person who have done plastic surgery.
I believe the worst life is one with knowledge…
Basically going back to the saying…ignorance is bliss.
A simple minded person many times has a simplier life than one who has head of knowledge.
A farmer, who tends to his crops everyday and really has no knowledge of anything, is someone who is not sad often…Unless, his crops fail, but that just motavates him more…
Agree? or Disagree…
Nice question, a new twist on the old “what is the best life” philosophy…
Um, what about laboring in an Indian ship cutting yard as a foreigner far from home, disabled by a shard of hot iron and starving to death as a sickly crippled beggar on the street.
Stuff like that has got to be worse than all the ignorance and dreamlessness y’all are talking about.
Or am I missing the point?
I can see how that can be a bad life, but this person lives with the knowledge of deep pain and struggle, which is knowledge… It would be a complicated life because of al the ordeals in which perhaps this person you speak of goes through.
Not saying famers arent smart, but farming is their life, they really dont have knowledge of the outside world. But this only isnt applied to farmers, But in a sense children also, Im of course talking about a child that hasnt had anything complicated happen in his or her life (Ex…Rape, molestation, death, abuse…), Its saying that having a mind of a child is a kind of true paradise, Because of the beauty they see in the world.
virus of pity~
So if the worst life is one with knowledge do you by means that children should not go to school? without knowledge will not the world will be in chaos, savage, injustice, to the ends, lawlessness?
And if we have the mind of a child, will this not make us like those who are imprison in those mental hospitals? Or are you just tring to persuade us to become an ascestic or a monk or a priest?
This is true, they are living in suffering, but isn’t there reasons why they are suffering? Is it not their own ignorance, or is it just by chance they were born in a handicap way and cannot find the courage to lift themselves back up. Unless you are quoting the budha that life is suffering, and it would be better off if those who is going to live their life miserable and be ignorant they would have been better they would not have been born.
You missed the point…One should always have the mind of a child, because children are simplistic. Adults are stupid,(saying adults once they abandon the mind of a child they stick to certain ideals or habits that they defend in adult life, and knowledge which they think is right, is also something they keep and argue over, a child learns, an adult is stubborn) and the knowledge you speak of is much different then the knowledge i speak of. Your talking about a knowledge which is obtained by books , Im talking ogf a knowledge that has always been in humans.
Where ignorance is bliss, wisdom is pure madness.
I believe very strongly that to live in ignorance of all the experiences of life is not to live at all. I haven’t suffered that much… I’ve never gone hungry, or been beaten or unecessarily frightened.
But in my own little way I have suffered. The death of a parent as a young man, a few other hard experiences. But those experiences are part of life, suffering is part of life.
Its like Gobbo said, a nap in the waiting room is no life at all.
After all, the best life may not be the happiest life.
cheers,
gemty