Of all the physical beings on the earth, how many of them are sadistic to some degree? I can be sure that nearly any being has some degree of pleasure from eating another, aswel as a sort of relief from the torture devices that their own bodies use upon their members in order to keep things under control. There is definitely a pleasure at another being’s loss, but in the simpler animals this sadism does not obsess too much over the actual pain of the other, or even “know” about it.
Is life generally sadistic?
Life definitely has a base in what we could call “theft”, each one taking what they want without concent.
And also, if reality is finite, at the top and when all things are said, finite, then every finite gain is another place’s finite loss.
If resource is infinite, fighting over it is unreasonable or insane. Infinite resource would mean competition is unnecissary. An infinite resource can become finite when only a percentage of it or a tiny fraction of it is “taken”, though. So if a trillion little beings took a finite amount of the infinity, then looked at eachother, they’d see some as having more than others, and see allot of mere finites. With this all in view, infinite would instead be seen as finite, and then they would perhaps fight with eachother over who could get the bigger pieces/fractions.
The bottom line that I’d really like to know:
Is resource and reality infinite?
If so, I’m trapped in a false reality of quantification and competition, in which all scarcities and lackings are mere fabrications which are a result of an underlaying sadistic and self-necessitating cannibalism.
It’s dsadistic if that’s the way you wish to characterise it. “Sadism” is a stipulative, or morally loaded term. It’s what you think it is - in that, if you think eating an animal is sadistic, then it is.
I don’t eat veal or lamb, but this is a purely emotional reaction, given the other stuff that I do eat. Some of that you might even call masochistic.
But not every finite gain is another’s finite loss - depending upon what you are calling the “other”. If I pick up a rock, to put in my garden, the place where the raock came from has lost the rock - yes. In that sense, you are certainly correct. But if that spot on the earth doesn’t feel the loss, I’m not sure why I should care. Mathematically, you are surely correct, however.
But yes, Danny - you are trapped, as we all are. Trapped in the Universe. Trapped by our brain functions. Stuck in carnality. Thus - the Will to Metaphysics. You seem acutely aware of its origin. But I’m not so sure you will ever truly make it there - you are also, for the present, at least, trapped by your biological will.
Well, that rock was free, if nothing cared that you took it. If it felt pain at being taken, or detested being taken, it would have been owned and controlled somehow. A free rock has no pain or pleasure, it has no Will. Will frees from one kind of slavery then enslaves another force. A control that changes itself.
Suppose the trap was pleasant? Shouldn’t everyone then be in it?
This trap tries to become free by farther entrapping.
This may ultimately be my own sickness. A sickness that calls itself health and life, and good and true, and replacates and takes things. It results in all sorts of faithful and dieing things.
I would say it’s both sadistic, and masochistic to aim for a world where resources which appear to be much more abundant are ignored in favor of those which would build paradigms of inequality and an otherwise tensional, holistic despair.
It was at this point in my learnings I concluded we must be influenced by aliens for some unseen agenda, or humanity as a whole was literally the crazy dude in the psych ward in the grand city of the galaxy.
Hope leads people on, like bank notes and promises. It suppliments for actual success, with later possabilities of success. Most religions are very hopeful, all about something bright and good after death and failure. Hope is probably metaphysical, aswel as mystical, though it does not even need idols or preachers in order to spread it; in fact, people beg others to preach it whenever they are not.
One of my profs used to say that America was out to Cocacolanize the world. There’s McDonalds in China and Russia. Back in the USA, although some of us are now eating sushi, we do not usually eat dogs or cats as some Easterners do. Nor do we grow our veggies from the juice of human carcuses. When did our our esthetics trump our necessities? There is more protein in ants and roaches than there is in most of the crap we eat.
In Wm. Blake’s “Book of Thel” a female spirit, unborn on Earth, looks down at our planet and is appalled on seeing sexual devouring as the sustaining order of life here. She refused to be born. My Am. Native friends ask forgiveness of the animals they consume.
I can’t do veal. For me torture is inedible.
Conversations with God, or another Neale Donald Walsch’s books says that the problem with humanity is the idea “there is not enough”. Not enough this, not enough that, when there is enough. I can’t really say whether that’s true with certainty because it’s too much for me to wrap my brain around.
Ierrellus, thanks for the reminder.
In some realms, beings don’t have “old-age”, they either don’t need to eat or they don’t eat eachother, reproduction is allot more optional and versatile, etc. Beings get to choose what they are, what they change into, and what they look like. In short, places where life is not underevolved scum.
