what president Bush should have said

[Impenitent]

townhall.com/columnists/Davi … san_speech

…"Let me outline the specific ways the Democrats have been obstructing our prosecution of the war. They have not only opposed every single terrorist tracking tool I referenced before, but they have persisted in wrongfully accusing me – before the entire world community, whose favorable opinion of America they profess to value above all else – of lying about Iraqi WMD, about a relationship between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, about conducting a unilateral foreign policy and about describing Iraq as an ‘imminent threat.’ They have misled the American people into believing we ‘outsourced’ the capture of Osama to Afghan warlords, all so that we could divert our military resources toward dethroning the unthreatening, benign regime of Saddam Hussein.

"They have also been inexplicably sympathetic to murderous terrorists held in our prisons in Guantanamo Bay, fraudulently alleging that we have authorized and conducted their systematic torture. They want to provide full constitutional rights and Geneva protections to our enemies. And they have the audacity to lecture us about harming America’s image in the world, and causing Muslims to hate us and join the global jihad against us?

“I’ve tried not to respond in kind, but, folks, it is becoming increasingly difficult to prosecute this war with the barrage of self-serving distortions emanating from Democrats. So please do the responsible thing, honor the victims of September 11, help me to protect America, and throw these bums out in November.” …

the truth hurts

-Imp

[Mastriani]

Or, instead of this line:

So please do the responsible thing, honor the victims of September 11, help me to protect America, and throw these bums out in November."

we could insert:

“So please do the responsible thing, honor the victims of September 11th, that every politician, of every party, now disgraces their deaths, by invoking their names, which hold an hallowed position within your minds, to serve their own agendas, which have nothing to do with benefiting you or your countrymen, and in November, take up the good fight and do your voting with a .308 and a night scope.”

Now that, would be a truly effective and powerful message.

[Faust]

Well, er, maybe a .223 for the ladies, or if you have some overpenetration issues, or ammo cost concerns.

[Satori]

we could insert:

“So please do the responsible thing, honor the victims of September 11th, that every politician, of every party, now disgraces their deaths, by invoking their names, which hold an hallowed position within your minds, to serve their own agendas, which have nothing to do with benefiting you or your countrymen, and in November, take up the good fight and do your voting with a .308 and a night scope.”

Now that, would be a truly effective and powerful message.

Well, er, maybe a .223 for the ladies, or if you have some overpenetration issues, or ammo cost concerns.

I laughed rather hard outloud after both of these statements.

[Faust]

That’s the great thing about the American political system. There’s room for divergent views.

[Peter_Kropotkin]

Impenitent:
…"Let me outline the specific ways the Democrats have been obstructing our prosecution of the war. They have not only opposed every single terrorist tracking tool I referenced before, but they have persisted in wrongfully accusing me – before the entire world community, whose favorable opinion of America they profess to value above all else – of lying about Iraqi WMD, about a relationship between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, about conducting a unilateral foreign policy and about describing Iraq as an ‘imminent threat.’ They have misled the American people into believing we ‘outsourced’ the capture of Osama to Afghan warlords, all so that we could divert our military resources toward dethroning the unthreatening, benign regime of Saddam Hussein.

K: So much silliness here, I can barely outline it,
but in some modest way, I shall attempt it.

1. WMD’S. Still don’t have them and never will. they
   don’t exist.
   2.There was no relationship between hussein and
   bin laden.
2. we did outsource the capture to warlords.
3. there are literately a dozen regimes that are as bad
   or worse, (in rankings done as to most oppressive
   regimes in 2000, 2001, 2002, saddam would usually finish
   from 5th worse to 15th worse. What about those regimes
   who are even more oppressive then saddam’s was? Oh
   yah right, Saudi Arabia is our friend and the others don’t
   have oil. Sooooooo…
   Now all this is an attempt to rewrite history.

IMP:"They have also been inexplicably sympathetic to murderous terrorists held in our prisons in Guantanamo Bay, fraudulently alleging that we have authorized and conducted their systematic torture. They want to provide full constitutional rights and Geneva protections to our enemies. And they have the audacity to lecture us about harming America’s image in the world, and causing Muslims to hate us and join the global jihad against us?

K: if they are murderous terrorist, then have a trial.
PROVE IT. In open court with the world watching, show us
how they are “murderous terrorist”. The U.S. can’t because
3/4 of gitmo are innocent of terrorism. I can show this because
of late the U.S. has released hundreds of people from gitmo.
You don’t release “dangerous people” from prison.

As far as torture goes you admitted you torture
when you had the army finally commit to the Geneva
convention and you are trying to pass a law in which
soldiers and others cannot be tried under international
law for torturing people retroactive to 2001. If you are so
innocent of torture then why have a law protecting soldiers
from international law?

IMP: “I’ve tried not to respond in kind, but, folks, it is becoming increasingly difficult to prosecute this war with the barrage of self-serving distortions emanating from Democrats. So please do the responsible thing, honor the victims of September 11, help me to protect America, and throw these bums out in November.” …

K: To help a president who is losing three wars at the same time?
I don’t think so. The only responsible thing is to hold the
president accountable for actions taken. You know,
if he would take “personal responsibility” for actions taken.
But too admit you are the worst president in American history
is beyond this administration because

the truth hurts

Kropotkin

[Impenitent]

@Peter Kropotkin

Impenitent:
…"Let me outline the specific ways the Democrats have been obstructing our prosecution of the war. They have not only opposed every single terrorist tracking tool I referenced before, but they have persisted in wrongfully accusing me – before the entire world community, whose favorable opinion of America they profess to value above all else – of lying about Iraqi WMD, about a relationship between Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden, about conducting a unilateral foreign policy and about describing Iraq as an ‘imminent threat.’ They have misled the American people into believing we ‘outsourced’ the capture of Osama to Afghan warlords, all so that we could divert our military resources toward dethroning the unthreatening, benign regime of Saddam Hussein.

K: So much silliness here, I can barely outline it,
but in some modest way, I shall attempt it.

1. WMD’S. Still don’t have them and never will. they
   don’t exist.

ask the kurds

[b]also:

Former President Bill Clinton:

President Clinton: “We Have To Defend Our Future From These Predators Of The 21st Century. They Feed On The Free Flow Of Information And Technology. They Actually Take Advantage Of The Freer Movement Of People, Information And Ideas. And They Will Be All The More Lethal If We Allow Them To Build Arsenals Of Nuclear, Chemical And Biological Weapons And The Missiles To Deliver Them. We Simply Cannot Allow That To Happen. There Is No More Clear Example Of This Threat Than Saddam Hussein’s Iraq. His Regime Threatens The Safety Of His People, The Stability Of His Region And The Security Of All The Rest Of Us.” (President Clinton, Remarks To Joint Chiefs Of Staff And Pentagon Staff, 2 /17/98)

President Clinton: "Earlier Today I Ordered America’s Armed Forces To Strike Military And Security Targets In Iraq… Their Mission Is To Attack Iraq’s [size=167]Nuclear, Chemical And Biological Weapons Programs[/size] And Its Military Capacity To Threaten Its Neighbors …Text Of Clinton Statement On Iraq Attack Agence France Presse, 12/17/98)

Former Vice President Al Gore:

Gore: You Know, In 1991, I Was One Of Those Who Put Partisanship Completely Aside And Supported President Bush At That Time In Launching The Gulf War. And In That War, We Saw How Saddam Had Threatened His Neighbors And Was Trying To Get Nuclear Weapons, Chemical Weapons, And Biological Weapons. And We’re Not Going To Allow Him To Succeed. (CNN’s "Larry King Live," 12/16/98)

Gore: if You Allow Someone Like Saddam Hussein To Get Nuclear Weapons, Ballistic Missiles, Chemical Weapons, Biological Weapons, How Many People Is He Going To Kill With Such Weapons? He’s Already Demonstrated A Willingness To Use These Weapons …(CNN’s Larry King Live, 12/16/98)

Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY):

Sen. Clinton: I Voted For The Iraqi Resolution. I Consider The Prospect Of A Nuclear-Armed Saddam Hussein Who Can Threaten Not Only His Neighbors, But The Stability Of The Region And The World, A Very Serious Threat To The United States. (Senator Hillary Clinton [D-NY], Press Conference, January 22, 2003)

Sen. Clinton: [size=167]In The Four Years Since The Inspectors, Intelligence Reports Show That Saddam Hussein Has Worked To Rebuild His Chemical And Biological Weapons Stock, His Missile Delivery Capability, And His Nuclear Program. … It Is Clear, However, That If Left Unchecked, Saddam Hussein Will Continue To Increase His Capability To Wage Biological And Chemical Warfare And Will Keep Trying To Develop Nuclear Weapons.[/size] (Sen. Hillary Clinton, Congressional Record, 10/10/02, p. S10288)

Sen. John Kerry (D-MA):

Sen. Kerry: The Crisis Is Even More Threatening By Virtue Of The Fact That Iraq Has Developed A Chemical Weapons Capability, And Is Pursuing A Nuclear Weapons Development Program. (Sen. John Kerry, Congressional Record, 10/2/90, p. S14332)

Sen. Kerry: If You Don’t Believe … Saddam Hussein Is A Threat With Nuclear Weapons, Then You Shouldn’t Vote For Me. (Ronald Brownstein, On Iraq, Kerry Appears Either Torn Or Shrewd, Los Angeles Times, 1/31/03)

Former Sen. John Edwards (D-NC):

Sen. Edwards: Serving On The Intelligence Committee And Seeing Day After Day, Week After Week, Briefings On Saddam’s Weapons Of Mass Destruction And His Plans On Using Those Weapons, He Cannot Be Allowed To Have Nuclear Weapons, It’s Just That Simple. The Whole World Changes If Saddam Ever Has Nuclear Weapons. (MSNBC’s Buchanan And Press, 1/7/03)

Sen. Edwards: The Question Is Whether We’re Going To Let This Man [Saddam] Who’s Been Developing Weapons Of Mass Destruction Continue To Develop Weapons Of Mass Destruction, Get Nuclear Capability, And Get To The Place Where If We’re Going To Stop Him, If He Invades A Country Around Him, It’ll Cost Millions Of Lives As Opposed To Thousands Of Lives. (MSNBC’s Hardball,; 2/6/03)

Sen. Harry Reid (D-NV):

Reid: The Problem Is Not Nuclear Testing; It Is Nuclear Weapons … The Number Of Third World Countries With Nuclear Capabilities Seems To Grow Daily. Saddam Hussein’s Near Success With Developing A Nuclear Weapon Should Be An Eye-Opener For Us All. (Sen. Harry Reid, Congressional Record, 8/3/92, p. S11188)

Sen. Evan Bayh (D-IN):

Bayh: In My Opinion - And I Do, As You Know, I’m Fairly Hawkish On Iraq. I’m Inclined To Support Going In There And Dealing With Saddam. But I Think That Case Needs To Be Made On A Separate Basis - His Possession Of Biological And Chemical Weapons, His Desire To Get Nuclear Weapons, His Proven Track Record Of Attacking His Neighbors And Others.(CNN’s "Late Edition," 8/4/02)

Bayh: The Question Is, Do You Want Saddam Hussein Having Chemical Weapons, Having Biological Weapons, Possibly One Day Having A Nuclear Weapon? Do You Want To Have To Deal With That? And If The Answer Is No, Then What Do You Do About It And When Do You Do Something About It? (CNN’s Live Event/Special, 12/1/01)

Sen. Joe Biden (D-DE):

Biden: [size=167]First Of All, We Don’t Know Exactly What He Has. … We Know He Continues To Attempt To Gain Access To Additional Capability, Including Nuclear Capability.[/size] There Is A Real Debate How Far Off That Is, Whether It’s A Matter Of Years Or Whether It’s A Matter Of Less Than That, And So There’s Much We Don’t Know. (NBC’s Meet The Press, 8/4/02)

Gov. Bill Richardson (D-NM):

Richardson: The Threat Of Nuclear Proliferation Is One Of The Big Challenges That We Have Now, Especially By States That Have Nuclear Weapons, Outlaw States Like Iraq. (ABC’s Good Morning America, 5/29/98)

Former Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL):

Sen. Graham: I Don’t Know If I’ve Seen All The Evidence, [size=167]But I’ve Seen Enough To Be Satisfied That There Has Been A Continuing Effort By Saddam Hussein Since The End Of The Gulf War, Particularly Since 1998, To Re-Establish And Enhance Iraq’s Capacity Of Weapons Of Mass Destruction, Chemical, Biological And Nuclear.[/size] (CBS’ "Face The Nation, 12/8/02)

Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL):

Durbin: One Of The Most Compelling Threats We In This Country Face Today Is The Proliferation Of Weapons Of Mass Destruction. Threat Assessments Regularly Warn Us Of The Possibility That North Korea, Iran, Iraq, Or Some Other Nation May Acquire Or Develop Nuclear Weapons. (Sen. Dick Durbin, Congressional Record, 9/30/99, p. S11673)

Sen. Russell Feingold (D-WI):

Feingold: With Regard To Iraq, [size=167]I Agree, Iraq Presents A Genuine Threat, Especially In The Form Of Weapons Of Mass Destruction, Chemical, Biological, And Potentially Nuclear Weapons. I Agree That Saddam Hussein Is Exceptionally Dangerous And Brutal, If Not Uniquely So, As The President Argues.[/size] (Sen. Russell Feingold [D-WI], Congressional Record, 10/9/05, p. S10147)

Sen. Bill Nelson (D-FL):

Nelson: And My Own Personal View Is, [size=167]I Think Saddam Has Chemical And Biological Weapons, And I Expect That He Is Trying To Develop A Nuclear Weapon. So At Some Point, We Might Have To Act Precipitously.[/size]; (CNN’s Late Edition, 8/25/02)

Nelson: Well, I Believe He Has Chemical And Biological Weapons. I Think He’s Trying To Develop Nuclear Weapons. And The Fact That He Might Use Those Is A Considerable Threat To Us. (CNBC, ;Tim Russert, 9/14/02)

Sen. Robert Byrd (D-WV):

Sen. Byrd: The Last U.N. Weapons Inspectors Left Iraq In October Of 1998. [size=167]We Are Confident That Saddam Hussein Retains Some Stockpiles Of Chemical And Biological Weapons, And That He Has Since Embarked On A Crash Course To Build Up His Chemical And Biological Warfare Capabilities. Intelligence Reports Indicate That He Is Seeking Nuclear Weapons[/size] (Threats And Responses, The New York Times, 10/4/02)

Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D-CA):

Pelosi: Others Have Talked About This Threat That Is Posed By Saddam Hussein. [size=167]Yes, He Has Chemical Weapons, He Has Biological Weapons, He Is Trying To Get Nuclear Weapons.[/size] (Rep. Nancy Pelosi, Congressional Record, 10/10/02, p. H7777)

Rep. Jane Harman (D-CA):

Harman: I Certainly Think [Saddam’s] Developing Nuclear Capability, Which, Fortunately, The Israelis Set Back 20 Years Ago With Their Preemptive Attack, Which, In Hindsight, Looks Pretty Darn Good. (Fox News’ The Big Story, 8/27/02)

Former Rep. Dick Gephardt (D-MO):

Gephardt Said He’s Seen 'A Large Body Of Intelligence Information Over A Long Time That He Is Working On And Has Weapons Of Mass Destruction. Before 1991, He Was Close To Having A Nuclear Device. Now, You’ll Get A Debate About Whether It’s One Year Away Or Five Or Six.(Morton M. Kondracke, Gephardt Pushes Consensus Action Against Iraq Threat, Roll Call, 9/23/02)

Former Secretary Of State Madeline Albright:

Madeline Albright: Iraq Is A Long Way From [Here], But What Happens There Matters A Great Deal Here, For The Risk That The Leaders Of A Rogue State Will Use Nuclear, Chemical Or Biological Weapons Against Us Or Our Allies Is The Greatest Security Threat We Face, And It Is A Threat Against Which We Must And Will Stand Firm. (Secretary Of State Madeleine Albright, Secretary Of Defense William Cohen And National Security Adviser Sandy Berger Participate In Town Hall Meeting," Federal News Service, 2/18/98)

2.There was no relationship between hussein and
bin laden.

never said there was

3. we did outsource the capture to warlords.

proof? something besides a democRAT site

4. there are literately a dozen regimes that are as bad
   or worse, (in rankings done as to most oppressive
   regimes in 2000, 2001, 2002, saddam would usually finish
   from 5th worse to 15th worse. What about those regimes
   who are even more oppressive then saddam’s was? Oh
   yah right, Saudi Arabia is our friend and the others don’t
   have oil. Sooooooo…
   Now all this is an attempt to rewrite history.

the only ones rewriting history are the democRATS

IMP:"They have also been inexplicably sympathetic to murderous terrorists held in our prisons in Guantanamo Bay, fraudulently alleging that we have authorized and conducted their systematic torture. They want to provide full constitutional rights and Geneva protections to our enemies. And they have the audacity to lecture us about harming America’s image in the world, and causing Muslims to hate us and join the global jihad against us?

K: if they are murderous terrorist, then have a trial.
PROVE IT.

yes, military tribunals. if you want to pay moron democRAT extra tax for terrorist sympathy, by all means, the left wing democRATS can increase their own taxes 5000% and coddle terrorists all day. I say shoot the fuckers.

In open court with the world watching, show us
how they are “murderous terrorist”.

military tribunals will do exactly that. if the left wing terrorist sympathizers didn’t block bush at every turn, they would have been tried already. I know, we can restore them exactly how they were found (with machine guns ect. and turn them loose on the liberal mecca of san fran. they’d love that. boy you sure could convince them of the error of their jihad with your commie love-ins. [size=200]VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!![/size]

The U.S. can’t because
3/4 of gitmo are innocent of terrorism. I can show this because
of late the U.S. has released hundreds of people from gitmo.
You don’t release “dangerous people” from prison.

show the actual statistics please.

As far as torture goes you admitted you torture
when you had the army finally commit to the Geneva
convention and you are trying to pass a law in which
soldiers and others cannot be tried under international
law for torturing people retroactive to 2001.

no, the us doesn’t torture. we don’t cut off fingers, gouge eyes, saw off heads… keep your liberal head in the fucking sand

If you are so
innocent of torture then why have a law protecting soldiers
from international law?

if soldiers did it, they are prosecuted in american court

IMP: “I’ve tried not to respond in kind, but, folks, it is becoming increasingly difficult to prosecute this war with the barrage of self-serving distortions emanating from Democrats. So please do the responsible thing, honor the victims of September 11, help me to protect America, and throw these bums out in November.” …

K: To help a president who is losing three wars at the same time?

no, he is winning them all, much to your chagrin

I don’t think so. The only responsible thing is to hold the
president accountable for actions taken.

[b] YES! try it!! PLEASE TRY IT!!! can you say CIVIL WAR?!?

[size=200]VIVA LA REVOLUTION!!![/size][/b]

You know,
if he would take “personal responsibility” for actions taken.
But too admit you are the worst president in American history
is beyond this administration because

the truth hurts

Kropotkin

see you in november socialist.

-Imp

[Peter_Kropotkin]

I must admit there is a part of me that hopes the
GOP actually keeps the house and senate in 2006.
As things fall apart, it would be nice to say, "look
the GOP has had all three, house senate and
white house for 8 years and look at what has happened.

Iraq will fall further in civil war, afghanistan will be
retaken by the Taliban, and the U.S. will be hit again
by terrorists, an event I suspect that will rival
9/11. At that point the only question will be, how many
people the government will toss into concentration camps.
As we go from democracy to dictatorship, we will
miss the freedom and democracy, we once had in this
country.

Also economist are now wondering not how far
the economy will fall in the next several months, but
how long the recession will last. But of course the village
idiot answer will be tax cuts (welfare for the rich) and
the massive deficits will grow into the hundred of trillions
of dollars, (but it really doesn’t matter because bush
has already bankrupt the country, assets and taxable
items added up does not equal the amount owned by
this country and that boys and girls is bankruptcy).

We will sink into third world country status.
From having it all to banana country in 10 years.
Yep, that is something to be proud of.

So you just go on supporting the village idiot.
And I wonder at what point will you decide he
is the worst president in U.S. history. Perhaps
in one of the concentration camps, you will be sent
to or perhaps when the country collapse in
economic chaos. I truly wish I had been born 10 years
earlier. Oh well.

Kropotkin

[Impenitent]

@Peter Kropotkin

I must admit there is a part of me that hopes the
GOP actually keeps the house and senate in 2006.

don’t worry, we will

As things fall apart, it would be nice to say, "look
the GOP has had all three, house senate and
white house for 8 years and look at what has happened.

things aren’t falling apart for anyone but socialists

Iraq will fall further in civil war, afghanistan will be
retaken by the Taliban,

dream on

and the U.S. will be hit again
by terrorists, an event I suspect that will rival
9/11.

probably. and when it does, the left wing is dead.

At that point the only question will be, how many
people the government will toss into concentration camps.

ok

As we go from democracy to dictatorship, we will
miss the freedom and democracy, we once had in this
country.

right

Also economist are now wondering not how far
the economy will fall in the next several months, but
how long the recession will last.

LMAO. the only problem with your lies about the economy is the fact that more than half of america is actively invested in the market and actually know what is going on with the economy.

foxnews.com/business/economy … indicators

But of course the village
idiot answer will be tax cuts (welfare for the rich) and
the massive deficits will grow into the hundred of trillions
of dollars,

foxnews.com/story/0,2933,213 … ss/economy

try again

(but it really doesn’t matter because bush
has already bankrupt the country, assets and taxable
items added up does not equal the amount owned by
this country and that boys and girls is bankruptcy).

We will sink into third world country status.
From having it all to banana country in 10 years.
Yep, that is something to be proud of.

defect to colombia

So you just go on supporting the village idiot.
And I wonder at what point will you decide he
is the worst president in U.S. history.

I will do no such thing. the only ones who hate bush are left wing liars.

Perhaps
in one of the concentration camps, you will be sent
to or perhaps when the country collapse in
economic chaos. I truly wish I had been born 10 years
earlier. Oh well.

right.

Kropotkin

nice rhetoric… can’t pose an argument so try to use fear tactics. stalin would be proud.

-Imp

[Peter_Kropotkin]

Fear tactics. Not at all.

Sadness maybe even depression, but not fear tactics.
I don’t see much hope these days, personally or
for the U.S… I try to stay positive, but …

I have often wonder what that person was thinking
when they chopped down the last tree on Easter island
thus dooming it. Were they thinking, “wow, we have achieve
a goal” or were they thinking “it didn’t matter anymore because
we are so fucked anyway”.

I wouldn’t be surprise if the GOP won in Nov, it will just
confirm the hopelessness of america. I have already
given consideration of moving elsewhere, maybe europe.

Maybe I can just pull a Candide and just tend to my garden and
let the world go to hell without me.

Or maybe I can just continue my path of drinking heavily
and popping as many different pills as I can get my hands on.

Eat drink and be merry for tomorrow the republic falls
and the dictatorship begins.

Kropotkin

[cba1067950]

i dont understand why you people believe that we should allow torture or other human rights violations and then at the same time hold restraint against doing things like killing civilians and annihilating a race of people. i mean… if youre going to take away the humanity of someone why stop? clearly the mid east would be better off nuked off the face of the planet. would that not solve our problems?

youre all a bunch of softies.

[Peter_Kropotkin]

cba1067950: i dont understand why you people believe that we should allow torture or other human rights violations and then at the same time hold restraint against doing things like killing civilians and annihilating a race of people. i mean… if youre going to take away the humanity of someone why stop? clearly the mid east would be better off nuked off the face of the planet. would that not solve our problems?

youre all a bunch of softies."

K: sure why not, just blow up the planet, we don’t seem to
using it intellegently anyway.

Kropotkin

[Mastriani]

@faust

Well, er, maybe a .223 for the ladies, or if you have some overpenetration issues, or ammo cost concerns.

Sexist.

[Wobbly]

[b]Imp.[/b

The fact is, Imp., Bush’s war against terrorism has been minimal. Yes he has taken steps to make me safer, but how much safter would I be if someone else would have been in office, or if Bush would have came through on all his promises.

[cba1067950]

@Peter Kropotkin

cba1067950: i dont understand why you people believe that we should allow torture or other human rights violations and then at the same time hold restraint against doing things like killing civilians and annihilating a race of people. i mean… if youre going to take away the humanity of someone why stop? clearly the mid east would be better off nuked off the face of the planet. would that not solve our problems?

youre all a bunch of softies."

K: sure why not, just blow up the planet, we don’t seem to
using it intellegently anyway.

Kropotkin

i didnt mean for that to be taken seriously… sorry

[GliderPendalehaven]

@Peter Kropotkin

I wouldn’t be surprise if the GOP won in Nov, it will just confirm the hopelessness of america. I have already given consideration of moving elsewhere, maybe europe.

you should move to france, its socialst, it has no problems what’so ever.

except the massive racism against jews and the accational riot.

its the perfect place so long as you live on the top of the hill.

just like the socialist paradise you want

[thirst4metal]

Glider, you might like my “Glory of the State” thread…
Nice post.

-Thirst

[GliderPendalehaven]

you have got some great lyric righting skills, which i saddly lack. keep up the good work.

[Gobbo]

I will do no such thing. the only ones who hate bush are left wing liars.

Embarrassing…

[someoneisatthedoor]

War on Terror = War on Drugs

We’ve been here before…