What's more important: truth or health?

Yeah, that’s a nice perspective. But what is truth dan~?

It is said, that illness’ purpose is for us to know ourselves.

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The most true you can become,
Is when you perfectly syncronize your consciousness with the world around you. That is clear and perfect reflection. Clear and perfect awareness, etc. That’s “truth”, in a body, through its many cycles, I’d say.

As reagards “the purpose of illness”,
If I banged up a whole and got hepatitus,
I’d probably begin to know that I had a liver virus, especially after I got sick, etc.

Only my reactive sensation of being sick would actually make me question myself and maybe try to avoid the problem from happening again.

So, you talk more of the meaning of aversion, the meaning of pain, within and not without, whilest a disease can OFTEN go un-noticed, up until it is too late. Example: Lead cups in medival times. Their bodies couldn’t sense the problem, couldn’t deal with it, mistook colloidil lead for calcium, got braindamage, etc. And the result was that they knew even less about themselves, because of the brain-damage, etc.

In my opinion health should always come before truth. I’ll use my own situation as an example. My entire life from early childhood it seemed to me I was much more self aware and self critical then anyone else around me.

This can make it much harder to stay positive or feel happy at all during trying times as theres nothing I can say to myself and nothing anybody can say to me to make me feel better as my mind is just too precise at separating positive things people say to you to make you feel better from the actual truth of your situation.

In essence I guess what i’m trying to say is this: In traumatic/unpleasant situations it is a survival mechanism of the mind to lie to yourself to some extent about how bleak your situation is so you can remain capable and hopeful enough to change your circumstances for the better.

I’ve noticed a correlation between the more intelligent/analytical/introspective a person is the more disposed towards depression/pessimism that person seems to be. I don’t think were meant to know all of the truth all of the time.

P.S. Long time no see Gib :slight_smile:

Mike! Haven’t seen you in a long while! I PMed you.

This is very much along the lines of what I was thinking. A lot of people misunderstand Freudian defense mechanisms as symptoms of mental sickness, but it’s actually quite normal and happens all the time. It doesn’t even have to have anything to do with trauma or unbearable truths.

I think the idea that being in denial or using other kinds of defense mechanisms is a sign of sickness comes from the rationalist movement that was so popular in the 18th century. In that era, insanity was thought to be the result of an intellect that lost the ability to be rational. Therefore, the slightest degree of denial or unconscious truth distortion brings you that much closer to illness.

As it turns out, most case of neurosis that have a psychoanalytic origin are a consequence of an emotion or thought that hasn’t been repressed successfully. It still lingers in a sort of semi-conscious state, in which case it leaves its mark on a lot of your actions, talk, and other forms of behavior.

Health is a state of physical, mental and emotional well being.

In that case, you could be healthy in the afterlife. :wink:

By this you’re saying that the world around us is truth. But what has created the world around us?

I speak of illness metaphorically. But also literally. A lot of people get ill and take medicine to suppress the dis-ease. Instead of finding out the cause. Take a pill. These kinds of people remain in the dark. Not darkness as evil, but darkness as absense of light. If you walk through the dis-ease, experience it, know it. It is one thing to know the light, but without darkness, light cannot be known.

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