What's Next For The Bush Administration?

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03.28.06.1266
All empires to rise have fallen. America, too, will succumb.
After having seen films like Farenheit 9/11 and Loose Change (Second Edition), you too might come to the same conclusion as I and ask: What’s next for the Bush Administration?

Are we to assume that Bush may yet do something before the arrival of 2008 to prevent his dethroning from the Presidency of the United States of America? Is it possible for him to, say… sometime in 2007, to find a way to coerce Congress into granting him a dictatorial title for the rest of his life?

Seriously folks, look at the evidence to what really happened during 9/11. If you’ve come to the same conclusion as I, you might be thinking: Why are we doing nothing when we could charge and convict the entire Bush Administration for treason and murder against the United States of America?

The question that seeks an answer: Why would the Bush Administration set up what happened on 9/11? Of course, to ask the question means to already have some idea of the answer. The so-called “New World Order” instigated by Daddy-Bush could not possibly be envisioned within his lifetime, and certainly not without bloodshed… unless a little pushing and shoving in the right direction forced it into being.

Is America today doomed to repeat the fate of Rome? First a proud republic, then an empire… I’m glad I won’t live to see the “glory days” of the America that shits on the ideas of our Founding Fathers and uses the Constitution as toilet paper.

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Now, I hate BushCo as much as the next red-blooded American, but really, this whole conspiracy thing is getting a touch extreme.

Why would they bother making Bush a dictator when they could just prop up another strawman? Bush isn’t some genius consilidating power around himself . . . the Neo-Cons are using him as much as he is using the Neo-Cons. They both profit from the agreement.

But Bush as dictator? The Neo-Cons lose on that one, Big Time. Bush is a replacable cog in their machine. Why invent conspiracy theories?

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I hope this thread is still online in '08 so we can look back and fucking laugh hysterically at it. I see this with each administration- as in Moby Dick, the critics love to heap all the sins of the world on to the backs of each President that they despise. Funny, many people I know were dead certain that Clinton would impose martial law to extend his presidency. Hell, my dad was sure of it!

You guys need to get a clue and use it to get a life. :slight_smile:

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Which do you think is worse:

Not giving a shit around what is going on in the world?

or

Caring a little too much about what is going on in the world?

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I see nothing wrong with the Bush administration’s foreign policy,of course, i find some of his domestic policy quite absurd.

Nation-building in Iraq,is an example of sovereignties expanding.This is what have been since time of civilization started.Either expand or decay.Take your pick.

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On another thread I voice this very concerned, about
bushco trying something to extend their regime or
try to delay the vote somehow. I wouldn’t be surprised if
during 2007 or early 2008, we somehow get hit again.
“terrorist” bombing or something like that. It will be a well played,
coup, but a coup nevertheless. And at that time, it will be time
to get out, future man is voted for Iceland, I will think about it.
I still like the tropics, but with global warming some of the islands
may be under water, so maybe Iceland it is.

Kropotkin

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extending his term beyond 8 years is a little too far, and unnecessary. even like 5 to 10 republicans will thinks thats shady.

if they really wanted to do it, they could just fabricate another reason to go to war with syria or iran (‘regardless of what virtually all experts say, these sheets of metal can possibly be molded into the outer casing of a nuclear anthrax mobile if the syrians spend lots of money to mill off the expensive anodized coating that is on it!’). then all they have to do is say that you shouldnt switch horses midstream, and if a democrat gets in charge, thatll be a new horse, and if its a republican, it wont be a new horse. i know thats stupid and makes no sense, and thats the main reason why it will work.

sovereignties expanding? you mean colonization? yes colonoies are great for fat americans. just dont be surprised when your colonists get mad and do naughty stuff like decapitate you.

i think we will still be able to extract some wealth after martial law is in place before abandoning ship. im counting on it, i havent quite gotten mine yet, and my parents probably wont leave until the first nuke drops. hopefully philadelphia is like kyoto in that it will be spared for its cultural significance, if not, im toast. or a superhero, depending on how much radiation i can withstand.

also, things like hurricanes love warm water. and if the atlantic conveyor stops, itll probably be like 120 on average at the equator, since the hot air wont be able to spread up the US east coast and across to iceland and england. but if that thing stops, nobody is going to want to live north of italy or the carolinas because of the ice age.

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CartesianFart:I see nothing wrong with the Bush administration’s foreign policy,of course, i find some of his domestic policy quite absurd.

K: I have seen many presidents come and go, and have studied history,
and bush’s lite is without the question of a doubt the single worst
foreign affairs president we have ever had. Let us look at his success.
Ok, UM, success Most of the world hates us, I can’t count that
as a success. Because of bush’s invasion in Iraq, we have a larger,
more successful, more focus terrorist out there, so I can’t really
count that as a success. In fact, both the number of terrorist attack
have increased and the number of dead from those terrorist attack
have increased. How many countries are standing by us in Iraq?
Out of the 200 or so nations, less then 15 continue to support us
in Iraq. We are bogged down in a civil war in Iraq with no end
in sight, with almost 3000 American dead, So I can’t really
commit Iraq to the success side. I fail to see that a success,
but you might. Afghanistan, has no central authority, and is
simply just small groups fiefdoms of word lords,
nothing resembling a nation.
Feel free to show a forign affair success of the bush administration.

CF: Nation-building in Iraq,is an example of sovereignties expanding.This is what have been since time of civilization started.Either expand or decay.Take your pick.

K: Iraq has quite clearly failed to be rebuild. By common consent
the Iraqis, were better off under Saddam then they are under
American occupation. The infrastructure that they depend on,
water, electricity, food, oil, security all of those were better off
under saddam’s regime then right now.
It seems quite clear that at some point in the future, next year or
two Saddam will meet with an “accident” in hopes of forcing
people to move on without him.

Kropotkin

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03.28.06.1267
If someone calls you unpatriotic, ask them: when was the last time you questioned your government?

I am rather shocked to hear something like this coming from you Phaedrus. Did you not see that I said the word “assume” at the begining of that single paragraph? What I said about Bush prolonging his term is rediculous— not just that, but entirely unrealistic. I admit, it is by all accounts, exactly what baseless conjecture should sound like, and I regret including that part in my post. Honestly, if I were literally predicting that to happen, I would have said it with proof to back it up. Consider it for a moment though— should it happen, we would have a nationwide revolution. The people would never accept something that insane… there would be blood running down the streets in D.C.

Having said that, I’d like to move on…

I am dead serious on the idea of charging and convicting every single member of the Bush Administration who had any involvement whatsoever with setting up what happened on 9/11 for treason and murder against the United States and its citizens.

Why?

Give me a reason why not.

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K: I have seen many presidents come and go, and have studied history,
and bush’s lite is without the question of a doubt the single worst
foreign affairs president we have ever had.
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CF: What about President Jackson?
Talking about the European powers having a great deal of contempt,to name a few.

K: you had to reach out and find someone over 150 years ago.
MY, my. Couldn’t you find anyone, say a little more current? Just
about every single country considers us a joke for the reelection
of the village idiot.

Peter Kropotkin:Let us look at his success.
Ok, UM, success Most of the world hates us, I can’t count that
as a success. Because of bush’s invasion in Iraq, we have a larger,
more successful, more focus terrorist out there, so I can’t really
count that as a success. In fact, both the number of terrorist attack
have increased and the number of dead from those terrorist attack
have increased. How many countries are standing by us in Iraq?
Out of the 200 or so nations, less then 15 continue to support us
in Iraq. We are bogged down in a civil war in Iraq with no end
in sight, with almost 3000 American dead, So I can’t really
commit Iraq to the success side. I fail to see that a success,
but you might. Afghanistan, has no central authority, and is
simply just small groups fiefdoms of word lords,
nothing resembling a nation.
Feel free to show a foreign affair success of the bush administration."

CF: This is premature.We haven’t been bogged down there that long in order to make this work.Must i speak in ‘Fast Food’ terms,must be the ill of our generation. This is a project,that will take decades in order for it to work,if the american people will just be nonisolationist and willingly of less selfishness and to dismiss all these liberal media nonsense,then it can succeed.The more the Iraqi federal government increase the military manpower,the more US pull out will be.Afganistan is a problem,but contain,unfortunately only in Kabul and other province.Nato,will be somewhat involve,due to alot of nations need this landlocked nation for the gasline that runs through the country.Sad,but Afganistan is relatively under the international elites control.

K: When someone has failed, it doesn’t take that long for the
failure to be noticed. And “liberal media”, there is no such thing".

K: Iraq has quite clearly failed to be rebuild. By common consent
the Iraqis, were better off under Saddam then they are under
American occupation. The infrastructure that they depend on,
water, electricity, food, oil, security all of those were better off
under saddam’s regime then right now.
It seems quite clear that at some point in the future, next year or
two Saddam will meet with an “accident” in hopes of forcing
people to move on without him."

CF: I disagree,and i find it disgusting that you prefer Saddam over than us in handling tribal conflict.

K: Disgusting? I never said any such thing as preferring saddam
I said conditions were better under saddam and that is a fact.
Saddam is gone. That is a fact of life. Next.
Oh, us handling the tribal conflict. How’s it going?
The Civil war over yet?

Afghanistan is a just tribal areas now. It has stopped being a country
and now is being run by warlords. Warlords being funding by more
opium then has ever come from that part of the world.
Another success for bush, more opium coming from Afghanistan
then ever before.

Kropotkin

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Upon further reflection, it seems to me, that
the administration will attack Iran sometime in the late summer,
in an attempt to boast the GOP before the fall elections.
The attack will a preemptive strike on Iran’s alleged
nuclear program. We will get the same lies we got
about Iraq, intelligence tells us blah blah blah
and it will all be lies. This administration just lies
about everything. It has no shame.

Kropotkin

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sage:

dude are you serious? you seriously think they covered up the 911 investigation like by confiscating and not rereleasing video footage of the pentagon attack? youre seriously serious? dude nuh uh.

thats the counterargument you can expect. BYOFacts, many of them.

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Probably more golf.

On a side note I hate Michael Moore sooo much! :imp: