Why do you want to accomplish out of this? What does amoral behaviour and primitivism do other than perpetuate this planet that gave nothing to you? There is no happiness, so why do you persist with this?
I’m taking opposition to this. I don’t think this is rebellion.
Mostly I accomplish the sharpening of my own skills and sometimes I hope that others may understand my beliefs.
I know all too well that it is futile and hopeless to change this world especially since the weak out of existential fear outnumber the strong with their feeble worthless moral systemizations of life.
Subjectively both systems together is my personal aspiration of total freedom that I strive for as a person.
What other people may think is irrelevant to me beyond myself.
Happiness to me is unbridled freedom to create and destroy at will with no consequences.
( Consequence to me is mostly a moral symptom.)
It is domination and conquest in man’s original primitive form that I see this the most of course such qualities are still possible today without morality but more difficult to apply.
Your perspective and preference of rebellion may be different from my own. Which is fine.
They don’t want to be living outside a dream-world, we know.
Aren’t both pointless? Morals and amorality? Amorality is ‘yes’ to the world…nothing could be more vile than that.
Freedom is an illusion, Joker. There is no free-will, nor is freedom in selections, as they are all the same bandages for cuts.
Is that exactly true? I certainly do when I post.
Freedom to create and destroy, how can that create happiness? Primitivism then, as you describe, is still an elaborate and pointless dream-world that you are sacrificing for. Power is a delusion, domination and conquest on this planet is not domination or conquest, only the illusion of a weak-minded fool.
Which is why I want to break this from you. We are all the same person. We all want to defy this planet…that’s where I come in.
Society and primitivism, both are pretty bad as each other, especially when one is already corrupted in the mind from society. Where can you go and what can you do? Go nowhere and do nothing. Your views stem from the same as mine, do they not? Surely destruction of this earth is going more foward than destruction of society, no?
Both will be as difficult as each other to convince others of. There is utterly noone who agrees with us on this forum, we both face offence when we post. That’s why I don’t know why we don’t support each other than go against each other.
Pointless to the world and universe, perhaps. Pointless to me, No.
I do not need the world or universe to constrive meaning for myself. I do that just fine by myself.
Whether it is a illusion or not, I as a participant in life fight for my own illusions and noone can take that away from me.
For the most part yes it is.
My will and being is satisfied.
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All a matter of perspective.
I disagree. We are all not the same.
Except for the reality that I do not desire total annihilation of life like you do.
I like you Aidan. I like alot of your ideas.
But there is some differences between us. Points to the last two previous posts.
So you want to believe you need to be a lunatic to live? It’s too late for that, you already know what reality is for you to pretend you didn’t.
Then why are you here?
But that’s jest, you do care what other people think, how can you deny that? I am not so arrogant to simply post here just for the sake of me being superior in beliefs.
You say they are, but is it reality?
I don’t agree with this; amorality is verbally saying nothing to the world. Morality speaks to the world with a voice; amorality speaks to the world through actions. Actions cannot be vile, because a living being that acts upon instinct is pure. It carries no stains and it stains nothing.
Reality is an illusion anyway. Humans naturally value some illusions over others, because it comes with the process of living from day-to-day. It is the human compulsion to value things.
Primitivism cannot be “good” nor “bad”. It just is. It is existing purely and it returns humans to our animal-selves. I value primitivism, because not only does it remind humanity that we are animals, but it is reasonable to embrace it to define ourselves.
They are vile to yourself, because it is affirming a slave master even more. And that’s not only what I think, everyone else thinks that too. Which is why we take up duality.
No, one does not need faith to perceive reality.
Value? You value life creating you to be robot who’s only purpose is to feel pain and sate it?
Why do you think I would be talking about morals here? I’m saying they are unbeneficial. I actually don’t value anything here on earth, why should you? Because you have to?
Death keeps you sane, remember that.
How is a wolf devouring a freshly-killed rabbit vile? ‘Vileness’ is a human description. It fails to portray the human condition and our connection to life and death by itself.
The wolf is amoral, because it abides by no morals.
I agree.
Life is only known through the illusions of reality. All a human can value are these illusions of sensuality. It is intrinsic to value some illusions, because some of them are innate–such as taking drugs to relieve pain. I am not stating my own values; I am only expressing what values mean.
I agree that morals are not beneficial. So, are you agreeing with amorality? Amorality is the absence of morals, by definition.
And with values, I only stated that it is a compulsion for human beings to value things. I am not saying what or if you value things, or myself.
Could you stop with this ‘moral’ talk? “Vile” is the feeling of illness from trying to take it aboard.
I wasn’t talking about that. You need to look at my sentences a bit more before posting, I was not talking about morals whatsoever.
I hope you do.
No, actually, I do not value bandages, I don’t think you or anyone does either.
Once again, you miss what I’m saying.
No, actually I’m just for destroying everything. Primitivism and amorality are no better than the opposites. I don’t know why people like Joker, who obviously oppose life verbally, would stoop to actually becoming more like it. Nietzsche only did that because he wanted some childish revenge against Schopenhauer.
It’s a compulsion to exaggerate things in human nature.
In some form I guess you could say I’m being ‘moral’, only because I defy the cruelties that this earth dishes out. No intelligent person would describe themself as a ‘nihilist’.
So you’re saying that amorality is the actions of life, but since you oppose life, you are opposed to both amorality and morality?
I guess my question would then be: since nothing matters, why would it matter if you destroy all life or if you just live? If I pick to just live, then why not live like an animal? They are not ‘cruel’. They are not ‘vile’. They are not ‘good nor bad’, ‘good nor evil’, and ‘right or wrong’. These are human concepts that are formed through the ignorance of the human mind.
If you destroy all living beings in the world, then I can guarantee that they will not care anymore than they will try to survive. Because of this, I desire to understand the secrets of survival.
Amoral is just being who you are, we know that. Yes, I oppose everything that goes on here in this planet.
Nothing matters. It doesn’t matter, all I know is that I’m not giving what the earth wants me to by saying this. I would be giving too much to the world by hating myself.
Because it’s quite clear you know you won’t get anything out of it if you did.
As I said, there are no secrets to discover. You are not truly an “animal” then are you?
If I destroy all living things, then they are dead. I don’t understand the first sentence.
Both amoralists and moralists, Atheists and Christians, Utopia or Primitivists. I am your enemy!. My hatred will never cease with your stupid inability to just end everything, even unite together to oppose it, which would not conflict your own egos.
How can you be my enemy Aidan? You are a person; you are not my life and you are only a minuscule fraction of life itself from my subjective existence.
You are an enemy to life, but you are life itself. You wish to destroy life, but you would destroy yourself, because you are life itself. You mark yourself an enemy, but you make an enemy of yourself.
I don’t understand your objection. If you wish to destroy life and despise life, then you would destroy and despise your own. How can you make an enemy out of yourself? Your selfishness makes you human, but you are contradicting your will to survive by making an enemy out of it. If you are true and you have conviction, then how can you say you can make an enemy out of your selfishness?
If you defeat your selfishness, your desire to destroy all of life, then you will not be a human being. Since you cannot defeat your selfishness, then how can you make an enemy out of your selfishness and contradict your hatred?
I can understand when a person says these things:
I love the world–I love myself
I hate the world–I love myself
I love the world–I hate myself
I cannot understand when a person says this:
You cannot continue living in #4, because it is a contradiction. It is only temporarily. If you hate all of life and want to destroy all of life, then you are contradicting your will to survive. You must eventually return to your animal existence and your selfishness. You desire to destroy, because you love yourself or you love others. If you truly hate all of life, then your selfishness will resist you. If your selfishness did not resist you, then you would have absolutely no reason or reservation to live. You would kill yourself without hesitation.
This is the mentality behind people who go and kill students at schools and then kill themselves. They are living in #4, but nobody can stay in this mental state. There will be blood. There will be death. If their is neither, then selfishness, the will to survive, is reaffirming itself and love infiltrates your being–at least a selfish love, a love for yourself.
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And the problem with people I have with school shooters is why would they not try to survive? Why would they not murder through calculation and escape without being caught? It seems like a failed attempt to prove the meaningless of life if a person goes to kill as many people as he can, but then not survive to kill more. By not surviving, it seems like they gave meaning to destruction and death, but they failed in their purpose. They tried to destroy all of life, because it was meaningless, but then they gave it meaning! It is odd; it is a contradiction.
If you wish to destroy all of life, then you may as well succeed. If you succeed, then you are right and life has no meaning. If you fail, then you are wrong and life does have meaning… in fact, they reaffirmed it! 
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Why does me being life have to do with making an enemy of life? Which is not fully true, I am nothing realising he’s nothing and wanting life to end. I am a force in conflict with another. You can’t loop me into that circle.
I make an enemy out of selfishness by destroying that which make you selfish. Turning your own selfish whims against it. It matters not if I shall no longer be a human being, at least I have taken the creator with me.
I am of the position of loving yourself and hating life.
Ok, this makes sense to me then.
The next question I ask then is:
Do you love yourself more than you hate life?
one for the ages… cough cowards cough 
And your clear ineptitude to your very own life?
But some how, you’re not your own enemy?
Looks like you and the groups you listed above have much in common after all. You proclaim that life is only lived in fear of death, and you rebel against this idea by…staying alive and posting on an internet message board? Way to remain consistent with your philosophy. =D>
I must do, that’s why I have gone to lengths of actually being honest.
Blacklung, just because you’re a weakling who is unable to tell the truth, is no reason to take it out on me. 
What the hell does this message even mean? I’m not rebelling against living life in the fear of death, just life itself. You’re hopeless at arguing, especially when you’re prejudiced against those who annoy your dream-worlds. How is killing yourself rebellion in any case? As soon as you do it, blacklung, the sooner I will. 