There are many areas we can apply this question to, all of which perhaps lead to a further and deeper philosophical questioning.
When every tune has been played; endless repetition ~ or endless variation of the same essential set? Similar kinda thing really one is simply a more varied version of the other.
When every politik has been arrived at [created and explored/utilised]; is there then a need for politics?
When every invention and technology has been done; once you have e.g. a car of optimum performance etc [inc` fuel type], then it becomes simply a matter of fashion as to what future cars will be like.
Can there be infinite repetition? If so why isn’t the world like so.
For me I think there will derive a time of simplicity for humanity, after the chaos the calm.
Does this mean there always has to be something new?
Is everything always new, and should repetition endless or not be consigned to the philosophical dustbin of holistic appearances. In other words it has no meaning beyond that.
‘Things’ become ‘new’ if there are sufficient reasons for a re-invention. Iceboxes, for example, came into being so food would stay fresher, longer. But ice took energy to make and didn’t last very long, so refrigerators were invented that used freon, which was then replaced with R-134a, since freon ate into the ozone layer. This is all a causal chain.
On the other hand, while the internal combustion engine replaced the steam engine, and has been around since the 1860s. Only now is research being done to replace it with a different energy source. In the meantime, there can only be ‘improvements’ made to the tried and true.
I don’t think every piece of music has been written, nor every picture painted, nor every sculpture sculpted, etc. That would deny creativity. New media are being used in art–new instrumentation, in music. And who can predict what will happen in the future? There is repetition in nature–repetition and small evolutionary changes, if not repetition in process. Simplicity, as elegance, is something for which humanity should strive, because we’ll ultimately be faced with no other choice. And simplicity should have started decades ago–but who knew–and who listened to those who knew?
repetition of nothing happening does it get you the sensation that everything has happened?
If you make you fail yourself, why do you fall hard for it?
sorry but i don’t understand your issue
is it that you “can’t make it happen”?
so why do you feel jealous about others that can if your issue come from you?
the sole responsibility of everlasting regrets for not trying
are you gay?
that’s a holistic causal chain, my point on causality is that we need to assume there are definitive causes and effects + a direct relationship between the two. At the finest level it seams to fluid for that imho and we also assume a single line where one thing leads directly to another when there can be alternatives at once at work within the same line, hence the line continually goes on tangents.
Principle; ‘If no repetition then no {specific} continuity’
If everything is always spontaneous [new] ~ because you cant have the same thing occurring twice [no repetition], then how can there be causal lines?
To the latter part of your post; there are a limited amount of notes and configurations of them and thus a limit of how many tunes can be made. We may not be there yet but surely at some point we will. I don’t think that applies to art though, indeed there may only be creativity.
sonnen
Lol, what!
No that’s not the issue, its not personal its philosophical. …and I don’t think I have any lack of creativity though I usually get accused of the opposite.
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Once again, there have been mathematical models that have shown that complex, multi-loop systems tend to cycle back and forth between stability and instability, order and chaos.
Indeed, can we go further and say that math itself can only/mostly demonstrate the mechanistic side of things. …and is ultimately limited in its scope.
Yes. Like all languages, it can only refer to reality. There will always be gaps. But I think experience shows this to be true as well. Look at the way our economy seems to do or the way that societies seem to cycle back and forth between war and peace.
