Who is the Greatest Genius of All Time?

You forget that he must exist outside of time to exist, and thus is not in the running.

Heraclitus and Nietzsche. Heraclitus because he posed the theory of becoming, and Nietzsche because he elaborated on it masterfully. The theory that everything is in flux and therefore no absloute can be nailed down is the most realistic theory I have come across.

That is an excellent point. I love philosophy, but I love economics more, that could be why FDR has my nod.

Was wanderful man!

Back to the drawing board? Definitely…

That is absolutely wrong.

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Tner- As in teen-ner, someone who is dating a teenager while not a teenager himself.

GB- The Green Bay Packers a team I still have not forgiven for beating my Patriots in the Super Bowl a decade ago.

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Where is Saussure when you need him.

I’m sorry, Pav, but technically you are not remembering the name itself, but signifiers which help you remember the characters in the name.

If I emptied your brain and told you to remember the name…you would have nothing with which to signify the characters.

On the other hand, if my name was Bob, you would not need any signifiers to recall the characters in the name because of its simplicity and common use.

At which point in the complexity of a name do we use “trigger” concepts which act as a key and help us remember? When is a name too strange to be remembered? Balanced syllable structures are expected…which is what makes the “collision of consonants” hard to remember.

How very nice of you

I’ll just call you nerg

I still don’t have to copy and paste it.

Pwned.

Jesus was the perfect example of an authentic human, not of a super-intelligent human.

My vote goes for the only guy that could invent someone else and have it bought historically. :slight_smile:

In my life Bob Dylan.

His work has had the most tangiable impact.

The other guys had impacts, most of them, but less tangiable. They lived so long ago that we’ve forgotten how they’ve changed things. We don’t know how the world would have been without them.

It seems as though Nietzsche is the victor. Funny, he has obtained the most votes but has not had any defenders.

Nietzscheans, duke it out! Why is Nietzsche - a man whose thought is only known to philosophy nerds and college students - a greater genius than the household name Leonardo da Vinci who revolutionized so many aspects of our world, or Jesus who inspired billions of people to do whatever they feel like in his name, or Plato who laid the foundations of millenia of other thinkers and societies.

Defend your idol!

Nietzche is not my idol, but there is something to be said for him. Merely the fact that so few understand him. indeed he is described as the most controversial philosopher, would indicate his intelligence. Something beyond what the average (or even educated) person can understand might be the indication of a superior intellect alone?

Ahh, but we are all made with the biological ability to comprehend this world. As Einstein said, “Any intelligent fool can make things bigger and more complex… It takes a touch of genius - and a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction.”

The simple fact that Nietzsche is so difficult to understand COULD be why he is NOT the greatest genius of all time. I do not, personally, believe for one moment that Nietszche’s incomprehensibility makes him a genius. The average person ought to be able to understand any philosophy. Otherwise, the philosophy is too complex and cannot possibly be accurate in the eyes of nature’s simplicity.

One of Nietzsche’s most brilliant points was the attempt he made to destroy Platonism and Christian metaphysics, and expose the nihilism that was embodied in these systems of thought. Not to mention the idea of the Ubermensch in overcoming nihilism.

Nietzsche, by far. I’m surprised he wasn’t in your list.

I don’t find Nietzsche difficult to understand. And I certainly don’t consider him the greatest genius of all time. For one, he simply hasn’t had that great an influence…

Um… Impious, Nietszche was on my list…

Anyway, you may notice that once you are reading about someone specific or are reading their work directly you find that they are very intelligent and it feels as though they are among the greatest geniuses. What you realize, though, is that after awhile you lose that feeling as you move on from the reading.

Thus, it would be accurate to claim that one requirement of being the greatest genius of all time is having a great impact on future generations. This, I believe, is why Nietszche cannot be the greatest genius. His thought is brilliant upon the time of reading and may be quoted in the future, but overall he does not change lives nearly like other geniuses listed.

But there are so many atheists out there just because the big N said that God is dead! Their 3-word reading of him made them give up theism completely! That certainly has changed the world.

Heh. I’m blind. :unamused: