Greetings to all the posters – what is the purpose of marring someone if one will end up feeling miserable?
fgorget that. whats the point of marrying someone, period
I will be writing my 130 page essay on this (my favorite topic) and get back to you all. Rehearsal awaits.
So the lawyers can make money when you get a divorce
Necessity.
Of course we marry because we’ve evolved that way. There is survival value, or once was, in marriage. And most babies come from people who stomach marriage, so most of us can stomach marrige.
But Darwin aside, your question is an embedded assumption that all marriage leads to misery. But marriage’s utility is subjective. I have a happy marriage.
First we’d have to analyze what it means to be attached to a person in a healthy way. Then we’d characterise a mutual, informed consent to be together and have a ritual to mark the occasion. Those aspects are complicated enough. But if those are sound and natural, the rest has a chance of working.
Being together long term is like an acid-trip or a jaunt through a dark room full of toys, heading for a light switch you know you’ll find. There are tremendous ups and downs. It’s a plant that constantly needs water. And now more than ever people lack the imagination, soul, creativity and attention span to make marrige vital and alive. Marriage should be like philosophy itself – an optimistic seeking of further bindings and loosenings. The deeper connections and “love” are truly hard won. Marriage is a way to have something “hard won,” a ticket to deep intimacy and complexity where you play a starring role, in a world where the “hard won” is in increasingly short supply.
I, Gamer, pale, pale, pale, pale shade of Nietzsche, take love and family to be life’s biggest and most rewarding adventures. A bad marriage could life’s biggest failings. We’re merely comparing bad apples with good apples.
But here I’m equating marriage with being together long term. Really marriage is technical a ritual followed by a legal contract. I could do without either of those…but they do serve to tighten the bond. These formalities somehow make even ME think twice before breaking up. Conventions, conventions. Anyway, I’m glad for the glue that binds. Once it dries it’s fucking awesome. Like a bitter, tanic, awesome complex wine that would make an immature kid say yuck.
For tax reasons.
Ah yes, the “pale criminal.”
Nietzsche claimed that a criminal type who denied himself as such would turn pale at the sight of himself in the mirror. This is the man who is cowardly before himself. Are you, Gamer, such a man?
I say unto you, become what you are, Gamer!
Man must become more evil!
No, the irony is that cynical as I am of moral convention and bullshit of all hues, STILL find value in marriage, or my marriage anyway.
Anyway, FUCK Nietzsche. He is a negative, unrealistic prick. He is the true fool on the hill. He will be left behind. The singularity will come regardless of his utterings. He was not needed. Yes, we must become Gods, but not because God is dead. It was never God we were following from the get-go. It was ourselves disguised as God. God is not dead. God is us. Now go eat your penne and jack yourself to oblivion, kind sir. (Standard Gamer rebuttal.) 800th post.
No Gamer, he was the perfect warning.
That’s why he’s so important.
Nietzsche said more of importance than you have
Everyone knows Nietzsche was the greatest philosopher who ever lived. And if they don’t, they probably own an Irish Setter, smoke a pipe, and have a wife named Sharleena.
But I must tell you this one truth:
The only reason why Nietzsche has said more of importance than myself is because he has more books than me.
You’ve got to give me more time, dude. I can’t write ten books in two years. Have patience.
did you actually write one ?
That’s classified at the moment.
If I told you I’d have to kill you.
sounds to me like constipation
Thought that need to clarify the question.
When I’m attracted to someone, I secretly think about the future – togetherness 24/7 with him. My guess is that after newness wears out (ex: after lots of spontaneous sex acts), he and I may want to look for someone different and cheat. Some of you posters might know what I mean. So should people like me marry and de-marry if it doesn’t work out?
Please try to enlighten me with more condensed and logical replies.
Cannot wait to see this essay.
Greetings to all the posters – what is the purpose of marring someone if one will end up feeling miserable?
This question provides its own answer and it’s not true.
Marriage is a gamble; you don’t know how it’s going to turn out. It could be argued that cowards avoid it, especially if it’s a good bet.
I sorta remember Nietzsche saying that we should question weather or not we are worthy of marraige and children.
As for my fitness for children: I am so restless, lazy, scatterbrained and sometimes sloppy in my housekeeping that I am not the kind of person that should be a father. I am, however, very well suited to be the interesting uncle, which is the role I play.
For marraige and a person like me, I think it could work out well. I had to wander, be free, and explore in my younger days. Now I think that if I could find someone suffiently interesting, I could settle down and be monogamous. the advantage of that would be that we would know each other deeply, be dedicated to each other and experience a depth of love that comes through time and effort. The key to avoiding boredom is, I believe, for both partners to keep growing and evolving, that way the person you would be with is not quite the same person they were 5, 10, 20 years ago.
Most get married because they think they should in order to raise a family. Marriage is an absolutely perfect arrangement for no longer than seventeen years. After that time, your tastes change and you are either in (a) need of therapy, (b) in denial, or (c) happy, but bored out of your everloving mind. Marriage gets to be a smidgen sibling-like, not to say that some of you (and, yes, you will be compelled to disagree with me) are sublimely happy… but family life and straightening your hostas usually annhiliates the happy couple leaving them with no inkling of what the hell their motivation was in the first place. And a lifetime of it? Kidding, right? The reason for affairs is simple: Boredom. Same ole, same ole = same old, same ole.
I am not talking about me, of course. 