# Why doesn't psychology actually change anything?
**URL:** https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291
**Category:** Psychology and Mind
**Created:** [September 27, 2026, 8:14am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291 "2026-09-27T08:14:36Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@The\_Emotion](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/The_Emotion)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 8:14am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/1 "2026-09-27T08:14:36Z")
Since when has therapy or a psychologist actually changed anything ? And another problem with psychology is they come at human existence with a naturalistic atheistic worldview which cannot provide any philosophical and religious answers.
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### Author:  [@anew1](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anew1)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 8:26am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/2 "2026-09-27T08:26:47Z")
What does the word ‘psychology’ mean, to you, exactly?
And, obviously, ‘psychology’ does change things. This could not be more blatantly obvious.
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### Author:  [@anew1](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anew1)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 8:31am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/3 "2026-09-27T08:31:38Z")
> [@The\_Emotion](#):
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> Since when has therapy or a psychologist actually changed anything ?
EVERY time it has, does, and will occur.
> [@The\_Emotion](#):
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> And another problem with psychology
But there was NO ‘first problem’ with psychology, for two reasons. So there is literally NO ‘another problem’ here.
> [@The\_Emotion](#):
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> And another problem with psychology is they come at human existence with a naturalistic atheistic worldview which cannot provide any philosophical and religious answers.
‘you’ appear to have NO understanding of what ‘psychology’ is at all.
But ‘we’ will have to wait to see what your definition of ‘psychology’ is, exactly? That is, if you ever do provide ‘your definition’.
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### Author:  [@anew1](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anew1)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 11:12am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/4 "2026-09-27T11:12:12Z")
See how ‘these people’ are NOT able to back up, support, clarify, nor elaborate on their beliefs and claims AT ALL.
‘Psychology’ actually does change things. Which is just another irrefutable Fact.
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### Author:  [@anew1](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anew1)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 12:07pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/5 "2026-09-27T12:07:04Z")
So, ‘we’ have here ANOTHER ONE who BELIEVES, ABSOLUTELY, that ‘psychology’ does NOT change absolutely anything in Life.
But, OBVIOUSLY, they were TOO AFRAID to ADMIT this in words.
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### Author:  [@Ichthus77](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Ichthus77)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 1:32pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/6 "2026-09-27T13:32:28Z")
What is it you want to change?
time’s up
muting thread
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### Author:  [@pseudoai](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/pseudoai)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 2:22pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/7 "2026-09-27T14:22:41Z")
Because most of it is remarketed philosophy
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### Author:  [@Pyronax](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Pyronax)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 4:53pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/8 "2026-09-27T16:53:36Z")
There are tons of meta-analysis research (meta analysis is considered the highest level of proof in science, an analysis of some times hundreds of studies) showing that various psychotherapies work significantly. Also there are non-secular leaning and fact-backed psychotherapists and psychotherapies out there. I advice you to do some research and try more than 0, 1 or 2 therapists. Hope it helps
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### Author:  [@Pyronax](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/Pyronax)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 4:56pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/9 "2026-09-27T16:56:51Z")
The provenance and influences doesn’t tell us about the fruits. Also we could basically say the same thing of science. Science comes from philosophy, yet it gives fruits.
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### Author:  [@meno41](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/meno41)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 6:06pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/10 "2026-09-27T18:06:19Z")
True, apparently , however, philosophy of mind has!
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### Author:  [@pseudoai](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/pseudoai)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 7:11pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/11 "2026-09-27T19:11:27Z")
I have to correct myself. Psychology actually aided greatly to psychologists, in particular, income-wise
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### Author:  [@anew1](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anew1)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 7:54pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/12 "2026-09-27T19:54:29Z")
In Life absolutely everything causes and effect. And, absolutely every effect is change. So, absolutely everything actually changes everything, including so-called “psychology”.
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### Author:  [@meno41](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/meno41)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 8:47pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/13 "2026-09-27T20:47:54Z")
Absolutes, including change can not be proven from the immanence of constant changing states , so such declaration goes only Hal way to realization, or rather, Being Realized
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### Author:  [@anew1](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anew1)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 9:17pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/14 "2026-09-27T21:17:14Z")
For ‘you’ this maybe true. For ‘I’ things are VERY DIFFERENT.
Change is proven, absolutely, and always.
The Universe is in an eternal constant state of change, also known as ‘evolution’, is prove of and for this irrefutable and absolute Fact.
If ‘you’ cannot fully realise this Fact, then so be it. No one says you have to.
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### Author:  [@meno41](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/meno41)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 9:59pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/15 "2026-09-27T21:59:30Z")
Again that assertive proposition belongs a resembling indistinct family,
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### Author:  [@anew1](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anew1)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 11:37pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/16 "2026-09-27T23:37:28Z")
Do you mean, ‘that assertive proposition belong ‘to’ a resembling indistinct family’?
If yes, then what ‘assertive proposition’ are you talking about, exactly, and which ‘indistinct family’ are you talking about, and what is ‘that indistinct family’ resembling, exactly?
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### Author:  [@meno41](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/meno41)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 11:49pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/17 "2026-09-27T23:49:03Z")
Per ‘family of resemblences’
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### Author:  [@anew1](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anew1)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 11:54pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/18 "2026-09-27T23:54:49Z")
So, ‘that assertive proposition’, which I still do not yet know, belongs to A ‘family of resemblances’.
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### Author:  [@meno41](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/meno41)
#### Post date: [September 27, 2026, 11:59pm UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/19 "2026-09-27T23:59:44Z")
Because they are unaware of the previous. Pro-position
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### Author:  [@anew1](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/u/anew1)
#### Post date: [September 28, 2026, 12:03am UTC](https://www.ilovephilosophy.com/t/why-doesnt-psychology-actually-change-anything/86291/20 "2026-09-28T00:03:49Z")
I do not know what the word ‘they’ is referring to ‘now’. Who are ‘the people’ that ‘you’ are talking about ‘now’?
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