For me, the impact of two people getting married is the children they make and the loss of an available single woman. Lesbians aren’t available, so if they get married I’m not losing a single. If Gays want to have kids they get screened by the gov’t or a doctor and I think that gives their kids a better chance at not being a detriment to me than the kids of breeders, since breeders of questionable means, and in some cases breeders who are already a detriment (convicts) to me, are allowed to breed.
What I don’t want is another miserable person in the world and no single women. Gay marriage doesn’t effect that, so I’m good with it.
That also describes why I am for gay adoption, it beats all hell out of being in the foster parent system.
You know, the devout Christians always point to the sanctity of the union between a man and a woman. My question, what sanctity? Just look at the divorce rate.
If a boy is raised by two females, “mom” and “dad”, how is he supposed to learn how to be a man? He might have an identity crisis and end up with some twisted idea of what it is to be a man. Will he think of future masculine women he encounters as “men”, just like his dad?
You are only changing the demographics of population growth. If gay couples are less likely to “reproduce”, as you seem to suggest, then the population growth in countries where gay marriage is a norm (progressive 1st) will decrease, while the population growth in the rest of the developing world (3rd world countries), where gay marriages are not as accepted, will still continue to increase at the same rate.
As a long time married man, I must say I welcome gay marriage. My theory
is if two consenting adults want to marry, have sex, smoke whatever, go for it.
Who am I to tell people they can’t do something if they are legal consenting adults.
More power to ya.
The couple of couples I know have the kids refer to their parents as either Da and Dad or ma and mom… the opposing Gender is represented by aunts, uncles grandparents and friends around the kids. If kids are loved, truly cared for and educated no issue ever need arise. If one does then families work together and help the kid… OK it sounds Beaver Cleaverville but, it is supposed to work that way and it does for alot of folks.
I don’t know. Let’s look at this statistically, when he goes through the entire foster care system, has a lesser chance of graduating high school, going to college and has greater odds of committing a felony will he really care about traditional gender roles when he is in prison?
Gay parents, or no parents. Maybe you would choose no parents, I would take gay parents given the option.
By that rather twisted logic, males raised in the inner city (where absentee fatherism is rampant) wouldn’t have any concept of what being a man is. I can’t say I’ve ever seen that argument raised; indeed, the persona cultivate by inner city males tends to be highly associated with virility and masculinity in the popular imagination.
Having a female for a father and having no father figure are different things. In one instance you would have a void/blank that is replaced by a surrogate idea of a father. In another instance, you would have conflicting concepts of fatherhood/manhood arising in the mind of a child as he is introduced into a social world whose accepted norms are different. Initial values/concepts are created inside a family, not on the city streets. He will have to either accept his initial family values (that it is okay to have a female as a man-figure, which is bound to make future female-male relations fuzzy for him), or reject his family (values) and accept society’s norms (at which point he is bound to see his “father” as, basically, a fraud; that he was raised by two women, one pretending to be a man).
Now I love the ‘having a female for a father’ quote. Do you actually know any lesbians very well? Lesbian couples? And do you realize that you just placed upon the entire gay population your heterosexual construct that’s based on couples comprised of two different genders? And can you conceive of the possibility that two women or two men in a relationship together may have dynamics of which you are clueless?
Your opinion above is flawed for so many reasons that I’m nearly at a loss as to where to start. Honestly, some of it is just complete nonsense. Unless, of course, you care to offer up all the psychological studies you’ve read on child development and formation of gender identity.
I’m curious…how exactly did you become an expert on ‘how a boy becomes a man’ in the first place? Do you know well any male children raised by lesbian couples who’ve encountered the problem you described? I, in fact, know two lesbian couples who adopted boys years ago, and I can tell you that in both families the boys seem to be doing just fine, and experiencing no confusion as to their own ‘maleness’ and no problem ‘acting male’. That’s because their parents adore them, understand the need to have men involved in their life and, most importantly, appreciate the boys’ need to be exactly who they are. Also, in neither of the families that I know do any of the children call anyone ‘dad’.
Can you consider the possibility that your commentary on this issue may reflect your own limited experience in the area, and the views are formed because of that? You’re entitled to them, of course, but the entitlement might be a bit stronger if you’d actually had any real life experience regarding that upon which you opine.
