Why is it Okay and Morally Justified to Own other people?

What a joke…

MagsJ, and by the way… I’m sure you masterbate more than I do. Which isn’t wrong. It’s been proven that masturbation not only helps against certain serious genital diseases (like prostate cancer) but it also stops you from having “wet dreams”

I can assure you, I’m not perving out on women.

Lie is a very serious word to use. Usually it’s just a confusion.

Carleas told me never to respond to you in a post.

What do you do? You call me a pedophile.

A more interesting issue, where the words are not taken so literally, is around the idea of wage-slaves. To what extent does current work practices, given the way the economy is played with and current labor law, have similarities to slavery?

Here we don’t have to take the metaphor literally, nor do we we have to dig in around it, but it allows us to explore one complicated phenomenon in relation to another.

When the ecomomy is poor and unemployment high, employers can demand all sorts of things, including things that one might consider private and certainly during those hours one is working for them. The ‘slave’ aspect gets heightened to near literalness. Sure, you can quit, but perhaps end up homeless with your kids.

Apologies for derailing your thread Urwrong… back to the topic.

I see empathy as one person attempting to lay claim to another, emotionally… this is necessary between parent and child, but no independent person cares for it… not in the extreme at least, and certainly not towards others’ children.

I want my doctor to be empathetic, just enough to send me to the right clinics and consultations… I want my family and friends to be empathetic, just enough so that we get on and respect each other’s wishes and boundaries… I want society to be empathetic, just enough to enable a stable and thriving societal structure. I also think that’s what most want.

When it comes to property be it yourself, another or things… I’ll just use a John Lennon line from the song imagine “imagine no possessions, I wonder if you can, nothing to kill or die for”

It sounds good on the surface, but if I keep taking a persons food or they keep taking mine because there are no possessions’, one of us will certainly die.

I don’t take people’s stuff because I’m not interested in hurting them. I’d hope they felt the same about me.

Ask yourself this. If you believe in no possessions for yourself, but you respect it in others, then why not respect it in yourself as well?

If you don’t respect it in others, then why respect it in yourself at all?

Karpel mentioned wage slaves. Or even student loan slaves. The average American has one dollar of discretionary income per day. Yet you wonder why the national debt is something like 20 trillion now. We’re going into debt for most of us, just to barely keep our lives afloat, and even the super-rich are using corporate welfare, they get a huge chunk of our taxpayer money. People think socialism is stupid. If you think socialism is stupid then stop defending the ultra rich!