what about soldiers in a war? This is murder of technically innocent people and it is not considered “wrong” by a lot of people.
Yes, but few like it.
Legally, if you kill someone without planning it out first (or are deemed insane/not responsible for your actions),it is not considered murder. Justifiable homicide is not illegal and neither is killing someone unintentionally as long as one is not breaking any other laws in the process. i.e. If I accidently kill someone during an armed robbery, I am guilty of a crime. However, if I accidently kill someone while working on a construction site without negligent behaviour on my part, I am not guilty of a crime.
that is not the point. Murder is not always a sadistic activity. ( ummm…I think!!! )
You are expressing yourself clearly, much in the world is relative, but there appears to be a few rules that most, if not all civilizations accept, one of them being murder.
Sorry all, but this brings to mind honor killing, why is it allowed in the Middle-East, as this is murder. If a man kills another man this is murder, and demands the blood of the perpetrator, but not if a member of the family kills a female who has dishonored the family by refusing to marry the man chosen for her, or another insignificant offence. Hence, honor killing appears to be lawful with few sanctions, perhaps a small fine or a few days in jail, if that.
These are just a few thoughts that spring to mind.
What is murder as opposed to homicide? Homicide is taking of human life regardless of accidental or deliberate. Murder, is the unlawful killing of another person. In essence, you are correct, as the culture determines what is lawful and unlawful, hence, honor killing in the Middle-East is not considered murder by them, but to a person from the West, it is murder.
Nope, there is a difference between the two. Murder is unlawful, a soldier defending him or herself or his or her country and killing another is legal. If a person attacks me with a weapon, and I kill said person, this is legal and is self-defense. There is a big difference.
Nope, capital punishment is legal and is not considered murder.
Nope, if the government does this it is legal and is not considered murder in the Middle-East.
So, if a person attacks you, and you kill them are you a murderer?
You allow these people to much power if they kill you “on the inside.”
Then whose fault is it? If they murder someone, they are a threat to others and should be put away, some are executed.
They are making a bad choice and hopefully will be held accountable for their actions. I dislike the continual blame game, you made me . . . what a crock. You chose to . . .
If you do not like the laws of the land, live elsewhere or stay where you agree with the laws.
Correct.
It all stems from the principle of preventing “bad” people from killing “good” people. The criteria used in determining which group an individual falls under varies according to culture.
Exactly. Murder is illegal and unethical by its very definition. Taking a human life is neither illegal or unethical in and of itself. The circumstances surrounding and the location of the act determine whether or not killing another human is murder.
Yes, some parents are indeed very evil, and I am attempting to teach critical thought to their mentally abused children. Hum, this goes back to another claim I made regarding the mentally distressed.
That is, a very young person who has been abused for a lifetime will often resort to murdering his or her abusive parents. Hence, a minor is the exception to the death penalty. But there is another sticking point; what about minors earning their “bones” by “crypting” a rival gang member, policeperson or just any schmuck walking around.
Ah, it is wonderful living is a free society isn’t it. We can think, argue debate, try to find solutions without some cleric or dictator telling us what to think.
I realize I am picking nits here, but homicide is the the killing or murder of another human being and both fall under the category of homicide, killing of a homosapien, fratricide is the killing of a brother, patricide is the killing of a father, etc. Whether it is legal or illegal is another question. Hum, what about the poor elderly person who murders a spouse who is tremendously suffering? Totally illegal, and considered murder, but what if the spouse wants to die and is too weak to commit suicide, self kill???
Damn, I am going to end up with a headache with all these ethical questions.
Euthenasia is a completely different topic here. We are not discuss the ethical-ness of capital punishment, and we are not talking about the ethical-ness of mercy-killing. We are simply talking about the killing of another that is simply not in accordance with the applicaple laws. This, and this only, is what I believe to be the most simplified definition of murder.
Just my humble thoughts, anyways… 
So we are discussing murder, illegal killing in general, right?
Hum, now what was your original question? Hum, why is murder generally universally illegal? Back to another poster, it probably was not in many societies, but they probably killed themselves off. Hence, now it is generally outlawed as murder would probably or did decimate societies that did not outlaw it.
Sorry, I am sick, and am probably not making much sense, damn! I am returning home tomorrow for the winter break, and this really ticks me off. No snide comments please.
I think if you ask yourself any moral or ethical question, the degree to which
you desire positively or negatively to partake in that act relates directly to your own morality. any universal moral standards are a result of convention or coincedince. free will gives us a life full of choices and its solely a decision you make for yourself.
any person has the power to kill but most dont have the will.
IMO, most people have the power and the will to kill if necessary, I know I do and luckily never have been put in the position of having to resort to this to protect myself, my kit and kin. That is, in the West there is a thin veneer of civilization that values peaceful behavior to violence as peaceful behavior promotes the civilization.
LOL, you have my son’s initials.
its pain. pain sucks.
being murdered sucks. murdering according to most people sucks. losing someone by means of murder sucks.
being cheated on sucks.
being stolen from sucks.
being smelly sucks.
golden rule is found in all cultures.
religioustolerance.org/reciproc.htm
there are exceptions but mostly… thats why. i mean its supposedly about survival and supposedly reproduction. but hey… so are suicides.