Why NATO? Economically the US and the EU are deadly enemies!

NATO is an extension of the United States military apparatus.

All of Europe is the United States prison bitch. End of story.

All empirical extensions end some day.

Also panem et circenses:

Just not soon enough…

Where the NATO? The NATO is a defensive alliance!

Is the NATO what you call the “theater of the absurd”?


Yes, but those people want the set up to be such that their class is given the greatest concentrated power and that life is harsh for everyone else. They are not nice people. They are psychopaths, but they want the world to move in a similar direction. They want privitization of everything, all of them. They want transnational organizations like the WTO, say, or IMF, or the new pacific states trade thingy, to have the power to override governments. They want the finance sector as unregulated as possible. And so on. So while they snarl at each other like the reptile brain driven people they are, they work together all the time. They want a grey, destroyed, desperate for most, highly controlled world and together they work towards this. Many people do not realize that they are working for this agenda. Most do not realize it.

You have a cynical position, but I actually think there might be worse motives for heading towards WW3.

And they have a cynical position.

All that is known, yes.

The cynical position is on the side of the the beneficiaries and especially of the the main beneficiaries of the wars; so they have a cynical position (see above), the most cynical position ever, Moreno.

Which motives do you mean? The main motive is always power (might; because of always having a will to might and a will to night), and that means: control - by (for example) divide et imperea, panem et circenses, cynism, lies, fraud, violence, murder, wars, terror, terrorism, fear, torture, enslavement, racism, dysgenics, corruption, blackmail, extortion, indoctrination, indignation … and so on … and so on …

Europe has almost twice as many inhabitants as the United States. If the 28 European small armies were under a single command, then Europe had the largest military force in the world. And - of course - the competitors, rivals, enemies of Europe love it to have to deal with a disunited Europe and disunited European nations. The more so-called „refugees“ come to Europe, the more unstable Europe is to the delight of Europe’s rivals (competitors, enemies). Therefore - for example - Obama praises Merkel.

One day you will be able to look up who has steered the refugees.

Europe will never become the “United States of Europe” as some European idiots say but it will become the most chaotic territory of all time if the Europeans will furthermore do what their rivals (competitors) want them to do.

The US is actually the model of this chaos. You have cities going bankrupt. Regions without water. Masses of poor people. Deserted towns and cities. More and more homeless. People working harder and harder for less and less. Extreme disagreements about how things should be handled. All under an oligarchy still skimming.

This should remind you of - for example - the Great Depression which led to the Second World War.

Can you give some examples with numbers and facts - just in order to compare them with the situation in Europe or elsewhere?

no… when they happen to disagree, it is just a gimmick to stir the pot and polarize opinions for their own ends

do you assume that the great depression happened out of the blue?

i think that with all this new technology the future is very dark and scary if we don’t cooperate, as we could destroy the planet and make it inhabitable with our pointless conflicts over trivial things

best to just make peace and get along, so no, US and EU are not deadly enemies and should work to solidify their alliance, not break it!

Europe is a colony of the United States military and financial hegemony. End of the story.

No. Of course: No. If you read my other posts, then you will know it.

Let’s take the topic in a backward glance. Why NATO?
Reflect at the second part of the equation , : the US and EU are enemies. Let’s analyze the language with the intended meaning structure, in terms of the military alliance.

The need forge an alliance was not merely the result of the expansionist mentality of a Pax Americana, but
the hystorical fact of abiding to the actual needs of
various post war countries with protection. After all, the so called western block of countries were aware of the dubious nature of an alliance with USSR, way
before the war ever started. Hitler’s popularity to a
very large degree consisted of
societal fear and distaste for communism. It was an unholy alliance with the allied powers, as well, and a behind the scenes game was played, starting with Ribbenthop’s visit to Moscow, with the consequential and infamous signing of the non-aggression pact. It was only a contrived game served to hide the smoke and mirrors perception of uncertainty, to wither the success of war will shift to.

NATO finally saw what was at stake when the eastern and western influences in Europe were finally set down and alliances of NATO and the Warsaw Pact finally mirrored each other in their true form.

As one fell, the other needed justification for it’s continued existence, and new enemie had to be found.

That enemy, has become virtual, in line with postmodern reality drawn on more lines then purely ideological. Religious,cultural differences have evolved post modern myths, with the old ones going into the twilight.

The new myths of technologically inspired miraculous forces, effected by daily leaps and bounds into new super technology, have enabled previously insignificant counties to attain super power status. Iran, Isis, North Korea are no longer laughed off as trifles, and one minituarized nuke delivered over a metropolis, can bring a super power to it’s knees.

This is the new threat, not to mention that a tremendous power block like NATO with an inertia of its own, a political power of vast military power, within which weaker members feel more secure, would be highly difficult albeit near impossible to deconstruct.

SEATO, similarly stands as a formidable bastion in Asia, and it is no longer only a veritable US
institution, but a mult layered association of intricate political web.

Growing sentiments of recurrent trends toward nationalism, can do not make significant retro grade effects, as blueprints have already been laid down, serving non stoppable trains of developed and processed agendas for the near and far future.

There are only a few hold outs, and looks like, they have become manageable. It’s astounding that THE MAJOR communist powerhouse has become not only declawed, but has become a capitalist powerhouse in such a short span of time, as one generation.

Klausowitz has become irrelevant, the days of hundred years’ wars have become relics of the past,
and enemies of economic inequality are more often then not, are usually are defanged in a short period of time. North Korea, Syria are purposefully kept alive to feed the idea for a need for enemies, to sustain the myth that NATO has a viable rationale for it’s sustenance.

Peace today is unaffordable, for ideological reasons.
The idea of a peaceful world is a contradiction of terms which have not outlived their usefulness.

The SEATO existed merely from 1954 to 1977.

His name was Clausewitz.

The United States is an enemy to European countries national sovereignty and independence however until the United States stops dominating Europe politically, economically, culturally, or militarily nothing will change.

Europe is essentially an American vassal state under the European Union.

The American Federal Reserve interestingly enough has a heavy influence over the European Central Bank.