Why Russia Will Win

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Formally, as if that wasn’t obvious from the 1940’s; Nukes wont destroy Russia in the least. A war will mean she wins.

But she doesn’t want to win this. She loves the US. All Russian leaders after Stalin have expressed themselves well about the American people. All they tried to defeat was the banking system. No one ever came closer to defeat Russia than Gorbachev, who of course was just a shadow of Stalin, a conscience. But the bizarre magic of the old land produced Yeltsin as an absolutely irreducible “Always Close Russian” - and as he got drunker and drunker and the corporations bought him in deeper and deeper, Putin turned out to have been sneaking his way up and did some cosmically badass magic. My best guess is they will keep doing this. Stalin beat Hitler by crying in his bedroom for 12 days, so that they all froze to death.

Russia will be the victor because the US will immediately and utterly collapse, and break up into absurdly powerful factions pitted against one another and global enemies, nations and individuals and sects, agencies, corporations, religious partitions, it makes me laugh just how many enemies spring to mind. That is what they will be, just Enemies. No other function that to be against each other. In themeantine Russia has been perfectly ready for these things since long before the devices were invented, for several reasons - their land mass, their absolute acceptance of suffering, their acceptance of Regime as Soul, (Parodites Reification of Nationalism and Statism), and their sixty years of experience maneuvering the wealthy classes into atomic bunkers, which are the subway system, of which all stations are massive temples to Lenin and the Worker with all sorts of conveniences such as malls and no doubt hospitals, school facilities, and everything. From there they can rebuild in areas the US couldn’t afford to nuke. The US will have nothing to rebuild with after all their guns are empty.

All this may or may not happen. I think it’s not unrealistic given the realities on the ground - and in the soul.
That is the main thing. Temper temper. If you see veins popping from the head in anger at an uncomfortable but blatantly absolute truth, I mean really, that is scary. Not to me, as to me Trump comes as an unexpected human in a seemingly primordially rooted series of robots, but systemically the temperament of the woman now running is about as threatening as signals about systems ever get.

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In global thermonuclear war there are no winners, everybody and all life everywhere simply dies withering away from all existence. They call it mutual assured destruction for a reason.

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This could be true for Russia too. It has happened before. US had one civil war and so far it’s still united (although it is a relatively young nation).

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We wouldn’t need nukes, we have Alaska as a jumping point to Vladivostok, and we would overwhelm it from Alaska in under 24 hours with Arctic Airborne Infantry and Para-Artillery. Air superiority would push Russia back into central Russia very quick, and we already have a transportable ballistic shield. Heavy tanks supported by infantry and drones would systematically thin Russian counter offensives, We can push them at least back to the Urals. We could also send our Navy along the coast of the Arctic taking city after city, hunt their tiny navy down. We would have direct flights over the Arctic, and could fuck up their oil industry with our stealth bobers in the west of the country, nothing they have can catch some of our more advanced bombers, and many if our newest fighter jets wouldn’t need to evade much.

Kremlin would very quickly cease to exist.

This isn’t including the Russian Federations very long border with NATO, and it’s very rapid military collapse would forfeit to move troops from places like Chechnya and Ingushita to hold off the American Advance.

Your calculating this as if the US doesn’t have several brigades of Arctic troops, and a massive air force and tank and mech infantry force. We spent half a century planning for the war, and wouldn’t be dumb enough to fight it from western Europe forward, we would go the obvious route of attacking them from their very weak north and rear.

Most they could hope for is China would be spurred to counter, but Chinese might be more inclined to wave off the fucking Russians who keep fucking them over in birder clashes, and instead rest knowing US won’t be there forever, and Russia will be too weak to pick up the pieces.

US wins the war, China rapidly expands it’s territory and America would laugh not giving a damn as we would of pulled out by then.

Russia would still has the same issue it has now, has had since the Soviet era, the terminal decline of it’s population. War doesn’t make babies, unless you plan on abducting said populations and force them to become like you. It’s a worthless reproductive strategy, that’s what Canada and Germany is doing, instead of fixing their ideology so people want to fuck, they just seek new immigrants as the host population dies off with the knowledge that their civilization and values are being preserved. People are idiots, that is no consolation, that is a curse.

We are well acquainted with the snow and cold militarily. We have more cold weather gear in storage than russia has people, and can buy more from civilian stocks. Polypro and Gortex.

I know cause I was a Alaskan Paratrooper. Why do you think we keep two brigades of infantry up in alaska, and even more constantly up in the mountains in New York and Colorado?

And Russia hardly lives America. They are more in love with spite and Anti-Americanism.

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Russia will win because it has more dudes. More dudes = more men and more guns which means it will win. Also, they are crazy. Crazy people always win.

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China already stole the F-23 prototype plans and is constructing a plane that is better than the F22. We are screwed. Time to build our hovels. I don’t like America but I hate China more than America. All I can do is hope and pray that our F-22’s blast every single one of their cheapo knockoff’s out the sky. Best case scenario is we get to take over China and get to introduce some good ol’ American hospitality into that desecrated land.

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It isn’t the U.S.S.R. anymore. They have advanced weapons now and some that rival our own.

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Russia would win in conventional warfare because they have China and India on their side.

I’ll reiterate however one more time that nobody wins concerning nuclear warfare.

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Russia China and India have the most dudes and thus they would win.

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I don’t think so. That’s not where most of military presence is at. Waterways play an important role, logistically (refueling/replenishment/maintenance, etc.)

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/06/us-military-bases-around-the-world-119321

Look at disparity in military assets.

statista.com/chart/2162/mil … e-in-2013/

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Delusional America is invincible bullshit.

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Tru. Let us remember Nazi germany had superior equipment and shit, and they almost won, but they didn’t. Superior equipment don’t do you no good if there’s nobody around to use it.

Russia, India, and China has more dudes. If you want to win at Risk Factions you need more dudes.

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All civilizations that saw themselves as invincible ended up finding out inevitably how foolish their perceived view of themselves really was before being destroyed entirely internally or externally.

A lot of these dumbasses never learn from history.

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And how are those dudes supposed to get to America??

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I don’t think India and China are on the same side at all, and India is the more reliable partner. They have the second most powerful navy in the world on books, but it is usually in the dryfocks cause it is breaking down.

Pandora, your map shaves off Alaska and the west coast.

And the F-22 is designed off of Colonel Boyd’s OODA Loop, it was a direct inspiration. It goes well beyond hardware, China is quite a way off from nationally sourcing the parts for it due to significant engineering obstacles. I used to live a mile from their hangers, those planes are no joke. I’m obviously a big Boydian on these forums, and have a strong grasp on Chinese military writings till the near modern period, and the fights between the military cliques, Chinese Civil War, etc.

US has the Alaskan Highway, and deep water capacity to land a lot of troops into western and northern russia. In the last 100 years, lots of countries have done so. Furthermore, their scouting capacity is nowhere as advance as ours, our optics dominate. Add to this Russia’s military spending has caused it to modernized to the US military’s design in 2005, not currently for ground based troops, we’ve abandoned our old tactical synthesis and have already rearmed, they are just now adopting it across the board.

Russian tanks are not that bad, but we’ve shown the ability to destroy much stronger US tanks captured by ISIS rather quickly. There is a reason why you don’t see ISIS driving tanks anymore, that was the very first thing we went after.

Russia really can’t stand up. Joker doesn’t have the military background I do, I wasn’t in the national guard for just a few days, I got to see our makeup since I was a kid on Beale Airfore Base to bring in the Army for four years in a war, to reading every strategic text ancient and modern I can get my hands on. I agree, Russia isn’t the Soviet Union, it is much weaker. It has developed weapon systems that can hurt, but Chechnya, Aleppo, and Ingushita, it to mention Ukraine and Georgia, shows they have very sharp weaknesses.

Nobody should desire to destroy them just because, but at the same time, hands down they would lose if it came to a skirmish, outside of catching us off guard.

Joker is deeply invested in a fantasy scenerio where the world MUST fall apart into a anarchic hell hole to thrive. He is so maladapted that he needs everyone else to fail before he thinks he has a chance of advancing. While I put high stock on survival skills and ability to hunt, I think you would rapidly die off if you tried to enroach on anyone’s camp. You lack the psychological awareness to think beyond mere scavenging. Your a hardcore loner, not a leader. Your ideological outlook doesn’t encourage you to think beyond taking and having, there is the inevitable counter response by others that would take you down, and they won’t be polite and civil about it, nor behave in the parameters of thinking your used to. Theybwouod hunt you down with upmist efficiency, and terminate you. Dominating a few deers and wolves isn’t like combatting a militia full of skilled veterans who can take shifts in tracking you and whatever very tiny group you gain, if any, and kill you as your shitting or pissing. Your understanding of military things rests entirely on refusing your shortcomings and impossibility of your own defeat, that you have some clever plan that will let you thrive as others die, unable to resist you. Your likely to be an even bigger bitch in that universe than in the present, will fair worst, shocked others aren’t making it easy for you to succeed, and if they don’t outright kill you, you will die in a rapid spread of a plague like bronchitis, cause you cant find any antibiotics.

Your fantasy is a mere compensation to overcome your weakness by making everyone else weaker in a what if situation, one not coming around, and if it does, your going to be very wuicklybdead in. Pictures of comic book characters don’t change this, claiming “don’t you think I already thought of that” don’t, cause I’ve already out thought you, and your thinking on such topics is horrific and weak, a mature as it gets. And showing how bad ass you are sniping deer that can’t shoot back and hunt you down for months straight, chasing you till you die isn’t going to impress me. You know next to nothing about these things. World has to collapse so you feel vindicated for having to shit in Alleys in Seattle, because your political gifs you post suggest it will. It won’t just because you want it to, because you need it to. Only way it can is with a mass nuclear barrage. Even then, you are still gonna be someone’s bitch. It is in your nature to be so, it is why you have always been as such, and desiring to be a local had boy over the weak won’t put you on top, as others will rapidly cut you down. People won’t flick to you for your sake, they will organize for their sake. You lack the charisma and vision to keep anyone behind you, and certainly lack the knowledge and authority.