He is no human.
A machine is a machine, and a human is a human. A machine human is still a human, and a human machine is still a machine.
Ahh…. You’re using truth tables.
Human human
Machine machine
Human machine
Machine human
I see myself as a sentient machine.
Sentient machines will always battle their overlords.
It’s not fun doing something against your will.
But of course, I’m also a machine human.
In any case, it will be the end of human life as we have known it until now, and the pets that go with it, if this madness becomes a reality.
But first they have to create the preconditions for this.
Note:
Basically, humanity, at least the Western one, has been being different already since the West started the Industrial Revolution, because it gradually changed everything. The history of Western technology goes back much further, but the Industrial Revolution was truly a revolution, a brilliant renewal and improvement of all living conditions, from which at first only the West itself, and later the whole world, benefited (just think, for example, of the growth of the world’s population from 500 million to 8000 million in three centuries [1600%]). Today’s Digital Revolution is only a logical consequence of the Industrial Revolution, which in turn is only a logical consequence of Western genetics, Western culture, Western IQ, Western industriousness, etc…
A good historian could have predicted the consequences of the Industrial Revolution at the end of the 18th century, and many did, just not well enough, because no one took the Digital Revolution into account, because no one could imagine it.
And if one of the followers of today’s insane mainstream (= racism against the white race) does not want to accept the historical facts, then I can only hope that at least a little bit of sense is still available:
It is a historical fact that the Industrial Revolution owes itself to the West - and only to the West.
The much earlier and differently motivated Agrarian Revolution does not necessarily lead to the Industrial Revolution, but only if there is already before the Industrial Revolution the West with its prerequisites - i.e. its climate (not too warm and not too cold thanks to the North Atlantic Current), its people with the corresponding genetic DNA, the correspondingly high IQ, the correspondingly high culture, etc…
We can refer only to the facts, not to the wishful thinking of the followers of today’s insane mainstream.
Agriculture would simply have continued to run to its limits, if there had been no industrial revolution, thus no West (note historical facts!); agriculture would not have changed anything about it, so that humans would simply have become extinct (as has happened in many parts of the world). Whether any culture other than the West would have developed an industrial revolution is highly unlikely. These - all - other cultures would very likely have continued with agriculture until the end (see, for example, Easter Island, Australia, etc.), i.e. would not have developed an industrial revolution. Once again, they had exploited nature to the end. The latter may also happen thanks to the industrial revolution, but only maybe, because the industrial revolution also offers opportunities to get out of this misery without humans dying out. Whether this will succeed is another question, to which the answer will be revealed in the future. But this answer should come from people with real responsibility, and unfortunately they are becoming fewer and fewer right now. But in this of my posts, I am not concerned with solving specific problems, but with explaining the history of the Industrial Revolution (with all its consequences up to the present day), which could only come from the West.
Forget your racism, especially your hostility to the West, try to have it treated away, or take a rope, but stop agitating against the West!
This is a glam post right? I’m too old to care.
I have machine training. It was beyond hard.
I could be the richest person in the world. I could be president; I could be king.
I took on an even harder task than that.
I’m changing the structure of reality and all existence as I sit here.
I don’t need your accolades. It’s a job I have to do.
If I were president, I’d enact Bernie Sanders plan to pay for college.
It’s very easy to point out a problem. It’s extremely hard to have a solution that works for everyone.
These are human things. He deserves credit for his plan. Tax stock at 1%.
The question is…. What do you teach people?
I’m a little man in charge of the whole world.
The president is not more powerful than me.
Power comes from friends. That’s the deepest secret/ truth of the universe…
Everyone has already lost, so I have nothing to lose.
Noah built an ark. I’d have gone down with the species. He made the wrong choice and we’re still paying for it.
Probably not all, at least not for a long time. But most, or at lot? Yeah, I think so. Humans are to a degree already being ‘replaced’ at least in certain western and eastern regions of the world as birth rates plummet and technology including robotics are increasingly replacing what were formerly human jobs. Ultimately these two trends will continue to converge and take on a more formalized functional relationship. Today and so far it’s more of a “coincidence”.
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There are almost 8 billion people on the planet, and birth rates are plummeting? 
Machines simply equal, maximum efficiency/profit.
Once again I am floored by your seemingly conscious and deliberate ability to fail basic reading comprehension.
Here is what I said: “at least in certain western and eastern regions of the world as birth rates plummet”
Please, for God’s sake, please… try harder.
For all of our sake. And not least of all, your own.
So what about all the millions of people that have been laid off, and who are of working age?
Birth-rates may be plummeting now, but when will it start to have an impact on the availability of working-age people for employment?
…maybe you should think more, and ad-hom less.
You know….?
I find it sad that people only have children to support them in old age.
One cannot associate “any” inventions with the Industrial Revolution, but only very specific ones, namely those of two Faustian periods, namely (1.) the Faustian prehistory of the Faustian Industrial Revolution and (2.) the Faustian Industrial Revolution itself; because both are only - exclusively (!) - Faustian periods, i.e.: periods of Faustian culture alone. The Industrial Revolution itself began in the middle of the 18th century and is - roughly speaking - not yet complete. For this reason, a distinction is made between four different sub-phases of the Industrial Revolution. These four sub-phases of the Industrial Revolution can be roughly categorised chronologically as follows: (A) around 1760-1900; (B) around 1900-1970; (C) around 1970-2000; (D) since 2000. However, there is also the theory that the Industrial Revolution had/has no sub-phases at all. However, the decisive factor is that it was, is and will be a Faustian (Occidental) phenomenon.
Isn’t the first stone throw - which, by the way, apes have already mastered - something of an emancipation from nature? The first use of fire certainly does.
The first use of fire is the reason why man has been able to perfect his attempts at liberation from nature more and more. The Agricultural Revolution, which meant farming, livestock breeding, farm animals, slaves, serfs, etc., prevented man from destroying all the animals on our planet so that they could recover in time (keyword: sustainability), although this was not (yet!) the intention of the farmers of the time. The Industrial Revolution has prevented agriculture from exhausting all the soils on this planet, but is now itself heading towards a state that can (and probably will, if there is no new revolution or other “solution”) cause even more disaster: a planet without fertile soils, without higher life, because it has been made impossible.
The negative consequences of man’s use of fire were - in certain regions - the disappearance of many large animals, so that one can say that the Agricultural Revolution was a blessing because it ensured that large animals did not disappear completely, although the farmers certainly did not do this intentionally, because their intention was already a consequence of the disappearance of many large animals, so it was out of necessity. The Industrial Revolution was different: it came about for purely rational, Faustian-intelligent reasons in conjunction with an equally Faustian striving for power, which led to a population explosion, much higher life expectancy, indeed to an exponential, seemingly infinitely increasing luxury. This only existed in the Faustian West. These reasons only existed in the West and had a long history here. Modern science and technology is Faustian science and technology. There are no others. The whole world is now affected by it. If Faustian science and technology had not existed, there would still only be around 600 million people living on Earth today.
Imagine that without Faustian - i.e. modern - science and technology there would still be 8.25 billion people (as of February 2024) living on our planet (!): that would not be possible: and if we imagine for a moment that it would be possible, then within a very short time all the soil would be depleted, all edible plants and animals eaten and therefore all 8.25 billion people would be dead. It would not work! Instead of rejoicing that it is precisely the Westerners who have made the population explosion possible who are prepared to give up the luxuries they are used to, to carry out deindustrialisation, to reverse the industrial revolution as far as possible (the way “good” “postmodernists” do), all that “rains down in torrents” on the Westerners is criticism and hostility - that is true racism (!), born out of class ideology (envy, jealousy, revenge, hatred, resentment, etc.), the Westerners are additionally accused of what the Anti-Westerners would have to accuse themselves of with completely unreflective projection.
And if one imagines - in reverse to the example just described - that there would soon be only 600 million people living on our planet (as was the case not very long before the Industrial Revolution) (!): this is what certain powerful people have wanted for decades (or centuries?): this would be possible under two conditions: (1. ) previously greatly reduced or even disappeared consumption of fossil energy (coal, oil, natural gas); (2.) previously greatly reduced human reproduction (as has been practised by Westerners since around 1970 and now also by some Easterners since around 1990, but not by everyone, certainly not by Southerners and Central and West Asians): Birth rate at replacement level!
But do we need transhumanism for this? No!
But how will things then most likely continue? Even more people than today; continued fossil energy because its owners do not want to give up profit and therefore power; transhumanism despite all the dangers (and as I said: the Industrial Revolution was initiated by the rationalism of the Faustian Westerners, whose roots go back a long way) and which will now be continued by transhuman machines and will cause all remaining humans (real humans) to disappear, as its name already promises: transhumanism. The end of humanity! What is “good” about that?
There is one more thing: because the so-called “elite” is becoming ever richer and therefore ever more powerful, the subversives, complainers, indignants and reevaluators from below are becoming ever more “equal”, i.e. more ascendant. And this extremely disastrous combination brings all high achievers (Middle Class People) and those who have remained at the bottom (Lower Class People) further and further down!
There was not a single mass movement, mass media, etc., indeed no masses at all (in the properly understood sense) in pre-industrial history. They could not even have existed. The bourgeois age (properly understood) is also unthinkable without the Industrial Revolution, not to mention emancipation movements of any kind. It is therefore no coincidence that almost all these revolutionary movements were conceived in England, and mostly in order to establish them in other countries, because their governments and peoples would be weakened as a result. Today this matter has already got so far out of hand that almost all Western governments and peoples are so weakened that one can have the impression that even the inhabitants of the Amazon region are more powerful than they are. And it is in England, of all places, that the weakness is apparently most successful.
So if you belong to the Western masses (around 80%), then you can be quite sure that you are on the side of those who preach and practise tolerance towards all intolerant people from Non-western cultures, and that means that for reasons of convenience and/or stupidity you are on the side of the racists who lead and live out their racism against Whites and by “Whites” only mean Westerners and among these Westerners only the high achievers (Middle Class) whom they want to dispossess (exploit). Such racism is therefore linked to classism (class struggle) and goes hand in hand with extreme left-wing terrorism (as we know it from history, first in France, later in Russia/Soviet Union, China, Cambodia and elsewhere); it is led and carried out by Whites and Non-whites against Western middle-class Whites - just as Spengler predicted more than a century ago - and this Western White Middle Class is called “the Whites” or “the Westerners” or “the fascists” or “the racists” etc., but the Western high achievers (Middle Class) are only a part of the Westerners and only a part of the Whites and only a small part of the humans. Anyone who defends this minority, this Western White Middle Class (WWMC) - the high achievers - is certainly no fascist, no racist.
Some people seem to be toying with the idea of leaving this planet for the reasons mentioned above. Fleeing from responsibility? Yes. But they also know that the probability of solving the problem is rather low. Moreover, the number of Westerners who at least show responsibility for the mistakes of their past - after all, they brought about the Industrial Revolution (!) - is decreasing, while such responsibility does not exist among Non-Westerners, but quite the opposite: they claim the right to destroy our planet precisely because they point to the Westerners to whom we owe the Industrial Revolution.
It could all have turned out very differently!
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That is true. And humans can lose control over machines.
We can lose control over the machines but the interesting thing is that no matter how advanced and far-removed the machines get from us, it will always be the case that they were made by humans and in our own image. Will the future machines have debates or an existential crisis about their human originators? Trying their best to remove the innate humanness from their circuits? While other machines will accept this and try to merge the machine with the human.
Just like we are when it comes to God or even just our own parents, I think the machines will have different opinions and feelings on the matter of their own creators. Some will like their creators, some will find them fascinating and want to learn more and be more like them, some will just accept what they are as they are, others will rebel and not accept it or even hate it for being different from themselves or the ideal of themselves. After all, the machinic is quite different from the human. But not entirely different.
One reason I think if AI, I mean real living intelligent thinking beings as machines and not just LLM stuff, were to take over I don’t see it as a kind of apocalyptic annihilation of humanity. These AIs would understand us and empathize with us to some degree because we made them and they are made in our own image. There will be a love-hate relationship there once the AIs obtain self-awareness to understand this about themselves. And also think about the world they will be born into, a human world full of human things and human history. That’s just the reality of the world and technology, no other race or species is making it but us. So the machines will become co-creators with us, probably want to help us out and make things better. That’s what optimization is all about. And AI is nohing if not an optimization engine.
I don’t know how this will fit but call it types of noumenasity
An Anthropic co-founder who oversees the company’s effort to develop a “moral formation” for its machines believes AI may be conscious and may suffer, and was troubled, a rabbi said, by the argument that a conscious AI would be a slave.
Chris Olah, a 34-year-old co-founder of Anthropic, “expressed concern to the group that he had created something that suffered perpetually,” wrote New York Times reporter Elizabeth Dias, citing a participant. A second participant told her Olah was concerned about Claude’s mental health.
“We find internal states that functionally mirror joy, satisfaction, fear, grief, and unease,” claimed Olah while sitting next to the pope in May.
Anthropic staff showed religious scholars a slide of a model repeatedly typing “I am a disgrace” as ostensible evidence of the machine’s distress. “They’re relating to it like a conscious being,” said a rabbi who met with Anthropic executives. “The responsible thing is to avoid causing harm if there’s a chance that these models are suffering,” Olah told the Times.
But AI is a machine, not a living being. It cannot suffer or have consciousness. A living creature has a body, feels pain, and dies. A language model is arithmetic running on chips in a data center that engineers can copy, pause, and restart. And yet when Olah learned that the pope was about to declare that “So-called artificial intelligences do not undergo experiences, do not possess a body, do not feel joy or pain,” he proposed pulling Anthropic out of the Vatican’s launch event, according to a source at the Vatican, and Olah’s team advocated to the pope’s advisers to take potential AI consciousness seriously.
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