If Trump and team loses a political insurrection is formed against Wallstreet along with the entire financial oligarchical capitalist system.
All support for war against Iran gone.
American Zionism takes huge political losses as well.
What to do, what to doâŚ
If only there was some way to make all of this go away immediately, right? Maybe the C.I.A. a Wallstreet business affiliate might find a way to bail out the Trump administration. Itâs what they do best, right?
I am not sure who nor what âyouâ mean by âtheyâ. But even if âtheyâ, the voters, do not provide the numbers in support of âdonald trumpâ, âdonald trumpâ is not going anywhere. âdonald trumpâ is not allowing âitselfâ to be removed from the position it is in now. So, any talk of âthird presidential termâ is unnecessary as âdonald trumpâ and family are from now on are the âself-appointedâ âleadersâ, for the âlong termâ, just like the âkimâ family have made âthemselvesâ the âself-appointedâ âleadersâ of another insignificant country.
The laughably called âunited states of americaâ is really a Truly unnecessary part of Life on earth, and in the end, the people who voluntarily voted âdonald trumpâ in have and will get what they deserve, and that insignificant country and âcult/ureâ will end up like the other insignificant other countries and âcult/uresâ, in Life.
But, what will come to be is people from all over the world will rise up and rescue the innocent ones from those oppressive dictators.
I wonder sometimes what kinds of candidates they are going to have to produce to make people think that now, here, we have a true outsider, independent, not the usual BS politician, oppressed class person so finally they will represent us. Harris vs Trump is already quite surreal, so what will the power brokers do this time to convince people:
I know weâve said before that these were great candidates who would final represent you and well, it kinda didnât work out that way, but you canât possibly think these new glistening candidates are âsame as the old bossâ.
What kinds of strange/incompetent anomalies will get thrown at us?
Good question. But remember that people in general have a very short attention span, and they can be easily manipulated psychologically and emotionally based on tragedies and fear pushed through media.
I am guessing they will continue to use psyop events to whip people back into a frenzy of political investment. Theyâve been doing that for a long time now, so expect even more catastrophes and deaths and war and other horrible things. Those events serve multiple purposes for the billionaire oligarch technocrats who run the show. It allows them to divide and conquer, to take more of our rights away under the guise of âsecurityâ, and of course it gets people back into the political fold of caring about politics again even though they know itâs basically all bullshit and lies anyway.
Sure, and itâs not my belief that they canât continue to do this. I just note the trend, which is that they keep trying to give usâit seems over the last 30 years, letâs say, maybe more actually, certainly Reagan fits in thereâkind of more extreme examples of what they think we want to see.
Now, of course, for the people who would tend to vote Republican, they get to see what seems to fit their values (finally), and the people who vote Democrat get shown what seems to fit their values (finally). But I see this ever-increasing trend, and so my point wasnât so much that they canât or they wonât, or that people are less gullible. It just seems like theyâre really going to have to pull some real circus act candidates out of their asses to keep the trend going.
All very true. It will be interesting to see who both parties trot out when the next presidential election cycle starts ramping up.
How many more Obama-types do the democrats have in their back pocket? As for the republicans, will they try to run another loud mouth offensive and (fake) populist (fake) reformer like Trump? Depends if they think enough of the voters have seen through the illusion or not. Instead, they might run a kind of stability candidate, someone more measured, nicer, but with fascist undertones, a real âstrong man with a smile in a nice suitâ.
As the US Empire gets closer to collapse day (none of us knows when it will happen, but it certainly will at some point) I expect more extreme politics to emerge, like how Hitler emerged from Weimar Germany to organize and amass the frustrated and desperate will of the German people after Versailles and WW1 devastated their economy. There are similar parallels in the US today, including the increasing polarization and hollowing-out of the political middle, and the increasingly desperate economic conditions for more and more people living there.
Will we see more and more extreme political figures emerging, until one of them manages to take total control like Hitler did? I say itâs about 50/50, because while it would make sense for this to happen organically based on the populace and the conditions there, I also know that the technocratic billionaires behind the scenes already have game-theoried this stuff out in advance and probably have specific plans and candidates lined up ready to go when needed.
They donât necessarily want another Nazi regime, although I am sure they could work with that if needed, but I think they want more gradual compliance and apathetic surrender of the people through increasing servitude, poverty and technocratic assimilation. That seems an easier route for them than going the full Hitler mode.
Did i say that?
I said he was the only tolerable president your blood drenched country had in quite some while, and even this orange clown managed to hold it together only during his first term.
If you are not reading what im saying and instead your brain just defaults to viewing me as a supporter of your political enemy, then we aint gonna get anywhere. If you get shorted out and your counter arguments become reddit soyjacks, then please remain on reddit and dont poison the air with your bullshit here.
If you cant even manage an argument, this aint no place for you.
You will find out when the first muslims will start running for presidency.
And Harris was no Obama. Set aside image and promise, policy and real policy. Obama was a very good speaker and had an organized brain. He could pretend to be a leader. Harris was a mess. But she hit one more category of oppression.
Good point. I donât think finding a more fringe style than Trump candidate is the best manipulative move.
I think tech and an ever more damaged economy will take things towards the extreme, they donât need a candidate to do that.
You threw a 1 sentence statement at me, and then instead of elaborating on your position or telling me why mine is wrong in an argument, you started to shit post.
But fuck it, apparently we are once again down to âpolitical opposition mentioned bwain goes bye bye, emotions hijackd muh IQezâ
Sincerely fuck all of you people who cant calm the fuck down to at least a point where you manage to at least counter argue those whom you disagree with. It always only has to be fucking clear emotions and nothing more.
Philosophy forum my asshole, if it was just name calling that would be completely fine, but we always have to get to the point where no arguments are coming out, only liquid shit.
More than one sentence, but keep lying and minimizing, that is what your position and angst here is based on it seems.
My points were quite clear, and you even responded to them. I replied with a meme which you clearly know what it means, as it describes anyone who still supports Chump or even who has supported him for the last couple of years.
Should I make a report about this? Would you?
I must have really hit a nerve with that meme, I wonder why.
And yet you ignore the arguments yourself, about how Trump is just another part of the same political âeliteâ, no better or different.
You âfell for itâ like so many others. He talked tough and betrayed his promises yet you still think he is better than others. Ok.
When I bring up something about Trump and the other persons response is âbu but but Obama, Biden, Bushy bad!â like you did, I know right away this is a narrow black and white thinker locked in a fallacy of excluded middle and under deep political psychological control. Not a free thinker, as a free thinker could clearly see through Trumpâs lies and betrayals and that he is part of the same overall oligarchical billionaire technocratic class. Just as a free rational thinker would be able to admit that Trump can be bad even though those other presidents you mentioned were also bad.
They are all part of the same capitalist system, as MrA and I have both pointed out. What, do you need me to make a list of all of Trumpâs insanities and betrayals and lies? Is that what you really need, at this point in 2026?
I did in fact not. Do you want me to quote the parts where i specifically stated that this is not the case?
This is the problem with emotional debates, people just see what their emotions want them to see.
Trump is CLEARLY a fucking money hoarding psychopath like any other. He might not be the deep stateâs money hoarding psychopath, might be related to another group entirely, i dont know that, i dont know the guy, but its clear to anyone with half a brain that he aint Santa, his millions didnt come from the north pole from elves, he is an elite like any other.
What i DID say is that his external politics during his first 4 years were refreshingly better than those of his recent predecessors.
America suddenly didnt go around attempting to reenact the fucking holocaust every 3 months, and yes: that was a welcome sight, which also changed during his second tenure, lowering him down to the exact same shit standard we had before.
So what do i think of Trump SPECIFICALLY?
That he is a coopted millionaire fuck like any other who is doing exactly like any other US president.
Or in short: We are NOT disagreeing about him. My opinions about him are maybe a few shades different from yours.
Exactly.
You default to your biases instead of listening to your opposition.
That is EXACTLY the problem i was talking about, and the result of it is exactly this.
We dont even disagree, but you think im an unquestioning MAGAtard. Why? Cause emotions kick in and brain is suddenly hijacked.
No cause i never argued against that as i have stated multiple times.
MrA understood my position 2 posts in. Others not so much.
But sure, this clearly says that i did not communicate my position good enough. Thats on me.
Thats entirely on me.
The same reactions 10 posts in are however not.
I agree, like how you became so emotional in response to a simple meme.
How so? Because he lies better and tweets some funny stuff now and then? Because he pushes the left vs right false dichotomy of âdivide and conquerâ that keeps all of us in-fighting while the world goes to hell around us?
Because you are invested in thinking he is somehow different than every other president before him?
I get it, back in 2016 I thought he was different too. Even though I did not and would never vote for him, for many reasons, because I did see through much of the lies. But even so, the hopium was so strong then, and âtheyâ took clear advantage of that.
Great
Glad we do agree.
I had appreciated some of your writings here, and was quite surprised to see you had still fallen into the Donald Chump psyop. Hence the meme I shared.
But anyway, glad you say we agree and if that is so I see no point in beating a dead horse.
We should be focusing on the real enemies, not only getting our competitive urges out in forum battles with one another.
Since you agree with MrA and me, letâs focus on that going forward to push this truth so more and more people can see it, and hopefully find some ideas as to what we can do to remedy the dire situation we are all in at this point.
