Will we get a syncretistic religion?

I think that you would love SAM Coops.

Actually, it was kind of dumb. That was like saying “First cure all diseases spread by women, then….”

That highest fertility rate country is Niger (approximately 7 children every per woman). The USA has been very actively importing vast numbers of their people into the USA, giving them homes and jobs (can’t image why :icon-rolleyes: ).

James … I find your post a bit confusing … not the cure all the diseases spread by woman part …

Artimus posted … “Bingo. Spirituality is the best way.” in response to a post from Lev Muishkin … “Simple - first remove all that causes discord and conflict; get rid of all religion and look at the earth, not the world’s of our own creation.”

I see Artimus’s post a bit differently. I don’t see some new flavour of spirituality replacing all religions or superseding them.

I see it more in line with the Chinese proverb … something to the effect … many paths are available to climb the mountain but the view from the top remains constant.

Perhaps some day all religions will meet each other on the “top of the mountain” and discover …“the view is the same” … with a subsequent embracing of all religions … all paths up the mountain … maybe!

More emerging thoughts …

Some religions have gone the way of the dodo bird on there climb up the mountain … more may meet the same fate … those that make it to the top will see the same view … maybe.

That’s okay. I find all of yours that way.

You don’t see the similarity in that and what I said:

Not only is it a ridiculous “first step”, but also a direct presumption of guilt.

But then you find that they were on the wrong mountain.

When was it? I mean: When did the USA start to import vast numbers of people from Niger?

And by the way: How many have they imported till now?

Look here for the answer.

No, it is what is necessary to fix a vast sum of conflicts that have been and still are ongoing.

Religion needs spirituality to be religion but spirituality does not need religion to be spirituality. Spirituality is basically all of the positives in religion without the coercion, fear, false hope, limited consciousness and discovery, traps through dogma, etc.

You do not need to follow anyone or subscribe to anything to feel or see the connection in life, universe and so on.

There is no wrong mountain… You still climb, you still get a view. The rest is preference.

Palm readers, mind readers, and mystics, are spiritualists … endless line of fakers and con artists.

Again, BS.
“No one needs to be taught anything. Everyone inherently knows all things from infancy. Each person is God.”

…yeah right. :puke-huge:

Sure, all people are always right in all they believe … “as long as they believe. There is no wrong. There is no Truth. All opinions are equal. Follow no one. Believe in no one. Be yourself and free.”

{{where have I heard that before}}

Leave them kids alone.”

Modern churches in London, and probably beyond…

“Believe in good”

Even that is too much for the modern nihilist, who cannot cannot see a distinction between good and bad or right and wrong.

Palm readers and mystics aren’t spiritualists… They’re con and fake. But you never know with some people anyway.

Spirituality has nothing to do with making money, so you using that as a defense to paint it in a negative light is kind of funny.

I didn’t say belief was right or everyone is right in what they believe because they arent… Which is kind of why I point out the flaws and contradiction inside religion.

But yeah, go down your own path, independent study, study all possibilities and the chances of what could be more possible/evident than the others.

You miss the point of spirituality and focus on trying to bash it when it is impossible to bash. It is quite literally all of the positives of religion void of the negatives.

Why would you rather have a million people going down the same path discovering nothing new instead of a million paths being walked by a million people where new discovery pops up daily or hourly. Just makes no logical sense to me.

There is a truth and we have given coercive dogmatic principles and fairy tales enough time to find them, unfortunately though… It failed, miserably.

And I disagree with it being bs. People do need to be taught, or at the very least influenced so that they may teach themselves.

Opinion is about as useful as bull shit… And then even that is more useful than opinion.

So exactly what dasein dichotomy do you wish to create between the good spiritualist and the evil religionist?
In your mind, precisely what is “spiritualism”?

It is the recognition that all life is connected and respecting that. It is being able to study anything and all things without dogmatic principles, fear, coercion, manipulation, lies and stereotyping/judging. It is freedom of thought, which is result from getting rid of the things of which I just stated previously.

Recognizing it is a circle instead of a pyramid. There is no all time superiority. There is only superiority in certain aspects for different individuals. Ex : Person A is superior in mathematics compared to person B. Person B is superior in the arts compared to person A. These two different people balance out the superiority complex by both having their own skills of which they are better at.

Spirituality is being humble. It is being open to all possibilities but weighing what has more evidence or a logical chance above that which does not.

I’ll write and think of more later on, getting off work atm.

I like to use this as the simple basic example to show the distinctions between the two. There are some terms that have been twisted in modern society so I do not like to use them, even in this article showing the differences. Like the terms “god”, “divine”, etc.


I should have focused the lens more on the right hand side of the entry gate… a rabbi, a nun, and an atheist walk into a building… but that building just happens to be a non-denominational cool-as-fuck church, which is de rigeur around here.

A worshipper is a worshipper, and a religion is a religion, and now the twain do meet.

In other words, it is just a bunch of chaotic babble to make government control over everyone more supreme.

No, because govt already works with religion anyway… It is less control for government because people will be thinking more, people thinking more is the bane of corruption in modern society.

People exposed to an idea or already made set of principles are more likely to follow it blindly instead of seeking objective truth through their own perceptions.

This would seem to mean that if you had a revelation to involve yourself in a religion, however small, the sect, you are religious, but not spiritual. On the other hand if you become spiritual from reading Alan Watts or listening to a channeler, since the source was someone else you are religious, even though they are spiritual.

So any spirituality that was not best described in this way is not spirituality. And notice that this spirituality need have no spirit in it at all. A nice atheist is spiritual, even if they 1) have no spiritual beliefs and 2) don’t think about it at all, have any practices at all. Spirituality from the root spiritual meaning of or concerning the spirit. At the very least this must be a vitalist set of belief, but I would argue that it must be beliefs that have to do with what gets called supernatural entities and processes. There is not reason to use the word spiritual if these things are rule out per se by the paradigm of the user. A physicalist, for example, cannot accurately define himself as a spiritual person. He could be a wonderful or moral or giving or deeply understanding person, a great guy, a gifted relater, someone with wisdom and insight, but spiritual is not an appropriate term for him.

Well, that seems unbelievable. Spiritualities by his definition come out of individuals based on revelations. Yet, somehow all these individuals generate the same exact spirituality.

No, and no. Wild generalities without basis.

If you say so.


In some sects, sure.

This is not true, unless most of the spirituality section of bookstore and most spiritual speakers are not spiritual.

Sounds like this person conflates all religion with hellfire and brimstone Christianity. Sounds like spirituality is rather new age.

Some does yes.

But it shames those who do not do this. Holier than thou peaceful New Agers without the problems of those they judge via vibe.

The irony of this one is bigger than a breadbox.

Complete socialistic bullshit.

That would be called a Rationalist. But you are talking more of the confused, confounded, downtrodden, and hypnotized socialist plebe drone who believes whatever the TV has presented to him, no matter how absurd it is (such as the 9/11 false flag, the school shooting, and reality TV).

So is spiritualism … and every other “-ism”.

In the midst of extreme and ignorant prejudice, you are trying to proclaim guilt and innocence.

That is the reality of it. Religion is merely what arises from chaotic spirituality once it gets dominated.

Saying that you favor spiritualism is exactly like saying that you favor anarchy. And they are both promoted for the same reason - so as to produce a more easily dominated mindset - disorganized, confused, confounded, insecure, and desperate.
Then the bullies step in and there is no one to stop them. The Globalist “Nazis” take over, the Globzis.

“Hate what was so that you can be dominated by us.”

amen to that, and I firmly believe that as long the 7 hermetic principles are not accepted as self-existing and immutable Natural Laws, the meaning of Reality will escape many. My online free e-book expounds on those Principles and how they regulate emotions. Real Free Will begins with the full understanding and assimilation of such Natural Laws. Until then, the reptilian brain will continue to impose its cycle of destruction upon societies and fragment the human psyche.

Mind being cause and effect is the paramount of philosophy and metaphysics. I dont see how synchretism can put an end to the religious divide and conquer, unless by force, meaning a war that is so destructive that people will embrace it out of… Fear.